[Politics] Brexit

[beorhthelm]

Having lived in Frankfurt for a couple of years, I can honestly say, there is no comparison to Croydon, in any shape or form

good or bad the chap was half joking, though Frankfurt is regarded as a dreary place no one wants to go to. to complete the sentence "lets go on a weekend break to .....", how many would put "Frankfurt"?

 

[The Clamp]

good or bad the chap was half joking, though Frankfurt is regarded as a dreary place no one wants to go to. to complete the sentence "lets go on a weekend break to .....", how many would put "Frankfurt"?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt

This really does show you up as quite the no-nothing.

Yeah, nothing to do in Frankfurt eh.....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt

 

[beorhthelm]

I am bemused as peoples optimism at future relations with The EU here, when they slate it and laugh at Cameron for attempting to get a 'deal' that he was never going to get, when it would have been in The EU's interest for us to never left in the first place. Now there's going to be a mass outbreak of common sense. I'm not so sure.

i saw a columnist write that EU takes UK seriously but not literally, and therefore (badly) misjudged the mood of the country and Cameron's deal, giving him naff all. they simply didnt think we'd go through with it, despite our long history of showing we have the minerals. had they judged better they'd have given Cameron a decent deal for a little but tangible leeway on some issues, and he'd probably have won. now they know to take us literally, we're leaving if they dont come to an agreement. so, whats in their interests? there are many conflicting, not least the core split between those wanting to maintain access to our economy, both for jobs and for finance, and those wanting a deal to be seen to be worse than membership. then theres a large budget hole they have.

if there's one thing i trust the EU on is the ability to create a fudge that looks and says one thing while being another, so im confident they will come up with an arrangement that looks far worse than membership, but in reality is only slightly "worse" with little technical difference in many areas. single market and customs union can be retained, countless pan-european agreements can be signed off, power of European Court of Justice is main concession along with a suitable smoke and mirror on immigration, and a re-formulated membership fee. i predict we'll end up quite close in the end, but with some clearly worded statements in key areas to appear more substantial than they are.

 

[beorhthelm]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt

This really does show you up as quite the no-nothing.

Yeah, nothing to do in Frankfurt eh.....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt

did i say "nothing to do"? i'll take first hand opinions of half a dozen people and reputation from wider afield, rather than a wiki link from someone who doesnt know any different themself.

 

[The Clamp]

did i say "nothing to do"? i'll take first hand opinions of half a dozen people and reputation from wider afield, than a wiki link from someone who doesnt know any different themself.

You said it was known as dreary. It's not. I've been many times and had a fantastic time. But you wouldn't believe that so I thought you might like to see he list of cultural highlights, Michelin starred restaurants, museums, it's nightclubs, festivals and awards.
Face it, you know **** all about Frankfurt or you wouldn't have called it dreary.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

so im confident they will come up with an arrangement that looks far worse than membership, but in reality is only slightly "worse" with little technical difference in many areas. single market and customs union can be retained, countless pan-european agreements can be signed off, power of European Court of Justice is main concession along with a suitable smoke and mirror on immigration, and a re-formulated membership fee. i predict we'll end up quite close in the end, but with some clearly worded statements in key areas to appear more substantial than they are.

I tend to agree with this, however I think they will push it to the wire before agreeing as a warning to others....

 

[Deleted member 22389]

good or bad the chap was half joking, though Frankfurt is regarded as a dreary place no one wants to go to. to complete the sentence "lets go on a weekend break to .....", how many would put "Frankfurt"?

Most people say Lille, Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Bruges, heard nobody ever mention Frankfurt.

 

[The Clamp]

Most people say Lille, Paris, Rome, Barcelona, Bruges, heard nobody ever mention Frankfurt.

Which for us forward thinkers, is a marvelous thing indeed. However somebody must like it. It's the 4th most visited city in Germany for cultural visitors.

 

[Megazone]

Your frenzied postings suggest a nice long restful holiday could be in order?

Same for you. One week away could really help you to reflect on how much left wing political drivel you post, on a daily basis, on a football forum, all for what reason?

You are as predictable as a Dean Hammond sideways pass. Time you started moving forward. How about posting something funny, or imaginative? Stop taking life so seriously on a football forum.

 

[daveinprague]

good or bad the chap was half joking, though Frankfurt is regarded as a dreary place no one wants to go to. to complete the sentence "lets go on a weekend break to .....", how many would put "Frankfurt"?

It is true of weekends tbf. Banking city, where most of the people travel home to other parts of Germany, or other countries etc.
Thought the place was ok, restaurants, bars etc. Certainly better than Croydon haha. The upside for me was a very big Reggae scene, so it probably rose tinted my glasses a bit.

 

[Megazone]

So, what's the conclusion to this?

Is she out of her depth or not? Yes or no would be preferred.

What's the next step NSC's going to take on this situation?

 

[beorhthelm]

You said it was known as dreary. It's not. I've been many times and had a fantastic time. But you wouldn't believe that...

i do believe you.

 

[5ways]

Not sure Jim you would really appreciate any response from brexiters all over again regarding your concerns.

How about we pass this over to some legitimate real remainers for their input instead.

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Can you boys help a brother out?
Because there will no longer be any flights from the UK to Europe or Europe to the UK post brexit Jim is worried our big footy clubs will need to diversify and have two teams like Chelsea UK and Chelsea EU if they wish to compete in The Champions League as the inevitable long coach journeys are impractical for the UK branch of the club. ( not sure which domestic league Chelsea EU are competing in but we can iron out little things like that later)

Anything you boys can say to reassure him or even if appropriate, confirm his worries?
Could he fly for example to another non EU country and then fly into Europe to circumnavigate the direct ban on cross border flights or are those airlines in other non EU countries getting canned post brexit too (oops soz about that, should have thought things through), or maybe sneak into France with the help of the resistance and then get an internal EU flight….or will that be just too impractical, especially if it’s a whole squad going in cognito dressed in orange tracksuits?

Poor old Jim in the west has raised his concerns but the lawyers, consultants, staff at DfT, and airline industry experts are all ignoring him for some baffling reason.

So come on chaps don’t leave a brother hanging. Show him you care and help out.

I think a second golden age of English piracy could be the answer. Sneaking across the channel in makeshift rafts and dodging EU border police by hiding out at safe-houses provided by sympathisers.

 

[5ways]

How do Switzerland deal with this?

By having their banks European headquarters in London

 

[Deleted member 22389]

By having their banks European headquarters in London

Why insult people with

 

[cheshunt seagull]

i saw a columnist write that EU takes UK seriously but not literally, and therefore (badly) misjudged the mood of the country and Cameron's deal, giving him naff all. they simply didnt think we'd go through with it, despite our long history of showing we have the minerals. had they judged better they'd have given Cameron a decent deal for a little but tangible leeway on some issues, and he'd probably have won. now they know to take us literally, we're leaving if they dont come to an agreement. so, whats in their interests? there are many conflicting, not least the core split between those wanting to maintain access to our economy, both for jobs and for finance, and those wanting a deal to be seen to be worse than membership. then theres a large budget hole they have.

if there's one thing i trust the EU on is the ability to create a fudge that looks and says one thing while being another, so im confident they will come up with an arrangement that looks far worse than membership, but in reality is only slightly "worse" with little technical difference in many areas. single market and customs union can be retained, countless pan-european agreements can be signed off, power of European Court of Justice is main concession along with a suitable smoke and mirror on immigration, and a re-formulated membership fee. i predict we'll end up quite close in the end, but with some clearly worded statements in key areas to appear more substantial than they are.

If it is to be a largely cosmetic arrangement it does beg the question why we are putting ourselves through the uncertainty, anxiety, acrimony and cost. Think of what we could have done with the expenditure on the leaving process; maybe investing in intelligence services, NHS, regional development etc. and unlike the 350m this is money that actually exists. Anyway it is too late now..the course is set.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Why insult people with

How is that an insult? Swiss banks don't have full pasporting rights and have to locate operations directly within The EU, many of them in London, as a result.

 

[The Clamp]

How is that an insult? Swiss banks don't have full pasporting rights and have to locate operations directly within The EU, many of them in London, as a result.

A key example of how so many brexiters simply do not have the first clue about what they voted for. It would be worrying if the damage wasn't already done!

 

[portslade seagull]

You said it was known as dreary. It's not. I've been many times and had a fantastic time. But you wouldn't believe that so I thought you might like to see he list of cultural highlights, Michelin starred restaurants, museums, it's nightclubs, festivals and awards.
Face it, you know **** all about Frankfurt or you wouldn't have called it dreary.

Quite the Judith Chalmers. Maybe a new thread for your travel suggestions

 

[The Clamp]

Quite the Judith Chalmers. Maybe a new thread for your travel suggestions

Always happy to educate people who write off a place having never visited it before.