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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Most of the mining 'equipment' is imported from South Africa, USA, Canada, Japan, Australia & China, to the best of my knowledge. Debswana even have their own electricity grid on some operations, I think at Orapa, importing that from Mozambique. Aside from Premier League football shirts (manufactured in Asia) and the odd jar of Branston Pickle and bottle of Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce in some supermarkets and expensive bottles of Scotch in bottle stores, there's not a lot imported from The UK there in my opinion. I lived there for over 2 years.

Tiny population though, thus a tiny market. I would guess any future trade deal we may do there would have to be with the Southern African Customs Union (SACU) rather than with the government of Botswana, but I could be wrong. Their president is Chertsey born to an English mother, so perhaps he'll be willing though.

The size of the population was why I queried him using it as an example of a Commonwealth country.He usually has some sort of fairly obvious agenda,but I couldn't work that one out.Maybe he'll tell us a tale of an unemployed Botswanan road-mender from his village,kept from working by the under-funding,evil,little Britain,narrow-minded,Brexit racists.Oh yes,and he was racially abused six times last week!
 




studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,226
On the Border
Didn't seem to sidestep it in the Times article.

And would he, as our government hoped, move quickly to seal a new trade deal with the UK? “Absolutely, very quickly. I’m a big fan of the UK, we’re gonna work very hard to get it done quickly and done properly. Good for both sides. I will be meeting with [Theresa May] — in fact if you want you can see the letter, wherever the letter is, she just sent it. She’s requesting a meeting and we’ll have a meeting right after I get into the White House and . . . we’re gonna get something done very quickly.”

As for Germany.

Mr Trump’s view is that Europe is dominated by Germany, and Britain was wise to extract itself: “You look at the European Union and it’s Germany. Basically a vehicle for Germany. That’s why I thought the UK was so smart in getting out.”

Seems like minutes from a meeting that Sir Humphrey had added.

In the tape of the interview which has been screened Trump is talking and Gove jumps in with 'and we're now at the front of the queue?' Trump hardly draws breath but says 'I think you're doing very well' and continues with with his views on the previous question, but makes no actual comment on any trade deal.

Spin, further comments not recorded, who knows.

We will have to wait and see
 


Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
Are you a weasel that wants the vote overturned so we remain in The EU as some would wish or should we leave The EU as per the referendum vote?

Well that's a bit like me asking you if you are a tyrant who wants to clamp down on British workers' rights to choose where they work in the UK or someone who believes that free movement across today's EU should be maintained.

I'll shall try to answer your question in one simple sentence. I do not regard myself as a weasel but, yes, I would like the underlying reasons for the referendum vote to be addressed and the decision to leave the EU reconsidered. I do not regard this as incompatible with democracy or our constitution. There you go.

I quite accept that you will regard this as me leading with my chin, and knowing what I do of your debating approach I doubt you'll be able to resist the temptation.
 


The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST
Didn't seem to sidestep it in the Times article.

And would he, as our government hoped, move quickly to seal a new trade deal with the UK? “Absolutely, very quickly. I’m a big fan of the UK, we’re gonna work very hard to get it done quickly and done properly. Good for both sides. I will be meeting with [Theresa May] — in fact if you want you can see the letter, wherever the letter is, she just sent it. She’s requesting a meeting and we’ll have a meeting right after I get into the White House and . . . we’re gonna get something done very quickly.”

As for Germany.

Mr Trump’s view is that Europe is dominated by Germany, and Britain was wise to extract itself: “You look at the European Union and it’s Germany. Basically a vehicle for Germany. That’s why I thought the UK was so smart in getting out.”

If you regard that load of old waffle, and it is undoubtedly waffle, as something to be relied upon or even taken seriously as an indicator we will establish quick, profitable, sustainable trade links with the US, then it's no surprise you fell for Brexit too.
 


knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
13,108
Looks like Trump and little Miss May want the UK be a Satellite of Love based upon an ideology of hate.
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
How about bollox, there was a vote on whether we wanted to leave the EU , not whether there Would be hard or soft brexit , we obviously want to negotiate the best terms but tbe vote diddnt ask the question about terms , you and your ilk are trying to move the goalposts plain and simple.
they can't move on from reality :rolleyes:
regards
DR
 








Jan 30, 2008
31,981
well that's a bit like me asking you if you are a tyrant who wants to clamp down on british workers' rights to choose where they work in the uk or someone who believes that free movement across today's eu should be maintained.

I'll shall try to answer your question in one simple sentence. I do not regard myself as a weasel but, yes, i would like the underlying reasons for the referendum vote to be addressed and the decision to leave the eu reconsidered. I do not regard this as incompatible with democracy or our constitution. There you go.

I quite accept that you will regard this as me leading with my chin, and knowing what i do of your debating approach i doubt you'll be able to resist the temptation.
you've shown yourself up as in Denial over the whole Brexit decision , IF YOU'RE THAT FED UP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON LEAVE THE COUNTRY, you must really hate yourself :)
regards
DR
 
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beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,014
If I vote Labour and the Tory's win do I suddenly have to now be a Tory supporter?

no. would you complain about the result for the next few years and demand a re-run of the election?
 




Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
The size of the population was why I queried him using it as an example of a Commonwealth country.He usually has some sort of fairly obvious agenda,but I couldn't work that one out.Maybe he'll tell us a tale of an unemployed Botswanan road-mender from his village,kept from working by the under-funding,evil,little Britain,narrow-minded,Brexit racists.Oh yes,and he was racially abused six times last week!

Talk about a conspiracy theorist!

Botswana is near the front of the alphabet and as I have a neice in law there it was the first one I thought of. As ever, no agenda.
 






Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Looks like Trump and little Miss May want the UK be a Satellite of Love based upon an ideology of hate.

And again,this time in English.
 




Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
If I vote Labour and the Tory's win do I suddenly have to now be a Tory supporter?

Now you have a head full of brie,nobody knows.
 


cheshunt seagull

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,594
no. would you complain about the result for the next few years and demand a re-run of the election?

If you cared enough you would put your head down and campaign for a different result at the next election. The ability to change direction via the ballot box, or via action by elected representatives, is a key component of a democratic system.
 


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