[Politics] Brexit

[pastafarian]

some berk,June Sarpong,whoever she is is on sky news now saying if we leave 4 million jobs will be lost and stating it as a fact.
where do these people get dragged up from?

 

[GT49er]

Maybe but why put your foot down on an already drowning dog?

Old Chinese proverb?

 

[Lincoln Imp]

some berk,June Sarpong,whoever she is is on sky news now saying if we leave 4 million jobs will be lost and stating it as a fact.
where do these people get dragged up from?

She is counting the number of jobs connected with UK-EU trade and saying that they would all be lost if we left. That's wrong, obviously.

 

[Soulman]

Old Chinese proverb?

Old Chinese Proverb Says: Man who walks thru doorway sideways with erection is always going to Bangkok.

 

[Soulman]

She is counting the number of jobs connected with UK-EU trade and saying that they would all be lost if we left. That's wrong, obviously.

 

[heathgate]

Will see if Europe votes for the UK in the Eurovision Song Contest if they don't sod them let's leave.bugger the recession the pound sliding ,houses marketing crashing etc .

What are you bleating about... there will be no change where you live anyway... it's already a mix between Warsaw and Vilnius anyway.

Has David Clownmaron threatened we will have are power cut off yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdDHDh0s_BQ

OMG a decent reason for voting for Brexit. Any more stuff like this and I'll have to change my mind.

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[cunning fergus]

And again... No, it's not a good argument but it's not an argument I put forward. I was simply suggesting that the City pays a lot of tax and that if some of that tax revenue is lost as a result of Brexit then that is something to be borne in mind. If you regard the potential loss of part of the country's tax base as relatively unimportant then fine - we all regard different things as important.

Good, we are in agreement it's not a good argument.

What's more, I understand the importance of the city and financial services only too well, however I don't accept the argument that what is good for the city is good for the UK. The politicians and their city chums have caused devastation in the UK, the effects of which we are still dealing with.

Other politicians and European/global bankers have wreaked devastation in Europe and yet despite this people still want to believe that those same politicians and bankers have the interests of the poor.

They don't, they never have and they never will.

 

[GT49er]

Old Chinese Proverb Says: Man who walks thru doorway sideways with erection is always going to Bangkok.

Old Chinese Proverb mostry clap!

 

[Soulman]

Old Chinese Proverb mostry clap!

Man who lives in glass house should change clothes in basement

 

[The Rivet]

Should the date in June be labelled 'Independence Day'?

 

[Soulman]

Should the date in June be labelled 'Independence Day'?

If the vote is Out then Yes.

 

[beorhthelm]

Positive story = obvious, I can't believe you don't see this.

Negative story = Scaremongering piffle from no 10, disregard and ignore la la la la la

i see, ironic that is exactly what you are doing, celebrating every positive news release even when basic research would show that its based mis-information. pay attention to the story detail: the CEO of the London Stock Exchange wasnt quoted saying x will happen, a third party reported he said something might happen, which if you check is not credible - numbers employed in euro trading not near 100k and euros are traded outside of EU, so no reason for wholesale move of trade. you are being sold a lemon and just happily sucking on it.

 

[5ways]

i see, ironic that is exactly what you are doing, celebrating every positive news release even when basic research would show that its based mis-information. pay attention to the story detail: the CEO of the London Stock Exchange wasnt quoted saying x will happen, a third party reported he said something might happen, which if you check is not credible - numbers employed in euro trading not near 100k and euros are traded outside of EU, so no reason for wholesale move of trade. you are being sold a lemon and just happily sucking on it.

I wouldn't post it if I didn't think it was credible. There's nothing wrong with what I quoted

"Xavier Rolet, chief executive of the London Stock Exchange, has said that as many as 100,000 City jobs could be lost if Britain left the EU in a private meeting with David Cameron, linked to moving the clearing of euro-denominated securities out of London."

There are not 100k jobs relating to euro trading but there are 100k jobs linked to that industry - apparently. I don't know if I'm being sold a lemon but I don't know why Mr Rolet wouldn't be considered a credible source.

https://next.ft.com/content/868345d8-1607-11e6-b197-a4af20d5575e

 

[5ways]

Brexit carries risk of recession, warns Bank of England - https://next.ft.com/content/54c975cc-1831-11e6-b197-a4af20d5575e

A vote for Brexit could cost jobs, raise prices, see the pound fall sharply and even lead to recession, the Bank of England warned in its quarterly inflation report on Thursday.

In the Bank’s most outspoken comments to date on the consequences of the EU referendum, Mark Carney, BoE governor, cautioned that the risks of a vote to leave “could possibly include a technical recession”.

Brexit campaigners were furious with the governor’s remarks and some called for Mr Carney’s resignation....

In its detailed assessment of Brexit, BoE officials indicated that the effects might be large and amplified by a loss of confidence in foreign financing of the UK’s current account deficit.

“An abrupt decline in capital inflows could pose a major financing difficulty for the UK particularly if it were also associated with investors attempting to reduce their holdings of UK assets,” the Bank warned




https://next.ft.com/content/9f131da0-183a-11e6-b197-a4af20d5575e

 

[beorhthelm]

... I don't know why Mr Rolet wouldn't be considered a credible source.

he isnt the source, its an attributed source from a private meeting with Cameron, so the source we should deduce is no10. as the CEO of a company trading UK based securities he couldnt/wouldnt want to say they are at risk (that would be a bit Ratner), so the suggestion is to euro denominated securities. there is a seed sown that they they cant be traded outside the EU, despite billions worth traded around the globe. just like every other currency. London is the largest location for trading currencies, along with shiping, insurance, and all manner of other securities and commodities that have little connection to the UK or EU. im sure he has a view and maybe pro-EU, but this story is pure spin.

meanwhile i read today a Professor of History from LSE propose that the benefits of EU membership have infact been down to economic reforms with in major individual members (UK, Germany, France) with little input from the EU and its institutions. but such erudite arguments arent of interest, EU all good and saved the world, m'kay.

 

[Albion my Albion]

It feels like we already waited long enough for the vote to have taken place.

 

[pastafarian]

The quote isn't about NATO.

you seem reluctant to answer.i thought it was a very simple question

i know the quote you posted isnt about NATO,

"the European Community, now Union, has helped to deliver a period of peace and prosperity for its people as long as any since the days of the Antonine emperors."

but why dont you lot mention NATO? why would the Remain camp push the agenda we should be thankful of the EU and not consider NATO in this discussion.Your quote you posted seems a perfect example of the avoiding NATO even exists

 

[pastafarian]

She is counting the number of jobs connected with UK-EU trade and saying that they would all be lost if we left. That's wrong, obviously.

yes it is wrong
and yet she has said it

i dont know who she is and what weight she carries but how many people have just watched sky news and believed her lie?

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Seems to me there will be never a good time to leave the EU, which is why you should vote to Leave on June 23rd. If you don't you are just giving the green light to Brussels to do whatever the hell they want and bind this country in so much red tape, this country will never ever be the same again.

I ask you Remainers, do you really want your children to live in such a over populated country in the future that they get pushed to back of queue for jobs? Think about it, look at the demographics, look at what is going on across the whole of the EU right now, look at the state of this country, we don't even have enough houses or services for own people, so please tell me how is it going to work in the future with more and more people.

If you think Remaining is a good idea, and you are not looking deep enough at what is going on in the EU.

You probably won't admit this country worked a lot better without all the extra people.

This is the real truth here on migrant numbers in the Telepgraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/12/the-gap-between-official-migrant-figures-and-the-truth-is-as-wid/

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Seems to me there will be never a good time to leave the EU, which is why you should vote to Leave on June 23rd. If you don't you are just giving the green light to Brussels to do whatever the hell they want and bind this country in so much red tape, this country will never ever be the same again.

I ask you Remainers, do you really want your children to live in such a over populated country in the future that they get pushed to back of queue for jobs? Think about it, look at the demographics, look at what is going on across the whole of the EU right now, look at the state of this country, we don't even have enough houses or services for own people, so please tell me how is it going to work in the future with more and more people.

If you think Remaining is a good idea, and you are not looking deep enough at what is going on in the EU.

You probably won't admit this country worked a lot better without all the extra people.

This is the real truth here on migrant numbers in the Telepgraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/12/the-gap-between-official-migrant-figures-and-the-truth-is-as-wid/

We have heard this argument a 101 times. Can you come up with something different?