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Brentford v Swansea



Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
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Living In a Box
Very high challenge from the dwarf
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
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Living In a Box
Fallon booked
 


Schrödinger's Toad

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Jan 21, 2004
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bhaexpress said:
He's fine until he doesn't get his own way and then it'll be another matter.

Strange, everyone keeps saying he's going to implode any minute, yet he's taken being benched earlier in the year perfectly well and has now got 17 for the season, despite spending half of it in our joke team. Yup, McGhee really did well there.
 




bhaexpress

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Repugnant Toad said:
Strange, everyone keeps saying he's going to implode any minute, yet he's taken being benched earlier in the year perfectly well and has now got 17 for the season, despite spending half of it in our joke team. Yup, McGhee really did well there.

Seemed to do pretty well under McGhee at that level too. Of course people like you will ignore the fact that he was a loner and not popular with his fellow players. Its only a matter of time at Swansea as he's fallen out everywhere else he's played.
 




Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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I'm utterly, utterly bored by Leon Knight.

I was never a big fan of the Leon baiting when he was one of our players. I always used to like him-admitedly the last time I saw him play was in october 2003, back in the days when he used to score for fun(and yes, back in the days when Coppell was manager). However, it's fully understandable if people want to knock him now he's left and said that he's 'delighted' we got relegated.

That people seem so desperate to defend him still is a little beyond me. His ego and attitude should be enough to make people give up on defending him (as a person at least). If you want to defend him as a player why bother pointing out that he can score goals in league one? We know that. He's a proven league one striker. In two seasons at that level with us and Huddersfield, he's scored about 50goals, so it's no surprise that he's scoring in that league with Swansea. It doesn't prove any kind of point though as until a few weeks ago we were playing in the championship, a level of football, which for whatever reason, Knight is not proven at.
 


sir danny cullip

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garry nelsons left foot said:
I'm utterly, utterly bored by Leon Knight.

I was never a big fan of the Leon baiting when he was one of our players. I always used to like him-admitedly the last time I saw him play was in october 2003, back in the days when he used to score for fun(and yes, back in the days when Coppell was manager). However, it's fully understandable if people want to knock him now he's left and said that he's 'delighted' we got relegated.

That people seem so desperate to defend him still is a little beyond me. His ego and attitude should be enough to make people give up on defending him (as a person at least). If you want to defend him as a player why bother pointing out that he can score goals in league one? We know that. He's a proven league one striker. In two seasons at that level with us and Huddersfield, he's scored about 50goals, so it's no surprise that he's scoring in that league with Swansea. It doesn't prove any kind of point though as until a few weeks ago we were playing in the championship, a level of football, which for whatever reason, Knight is not proven at.

:clap: :clap:
 


Schrödinger's Toad

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Jan 21, 2004
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bhaexpress said:
Of course people like you will ignore the fact that he was a loner and not popular with his fellow players.

So it once again comes down to the question;

Do you want player A, who's really nice to everyone and is loved by all, but is frankly a bit shit?

Or do you go for player B, who's something of an arrogant little sod who rubs some people up the wrong way, but virtually guarantees you 25+ goals a year in League One?

I know which I'll go for.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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garry nelsons left foot said:
He's a proven league one striker. In two seasons at that level with us and Huddersfield, he's scored about 50goals, so it's no surprise that he's scoring in that league

Actually, come to think of it, don't we need one of those? :shootself
 


Schrödinger's Toad

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Jan 21, 2004
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garry nelsons left foot said:
If you want to defend him as a player why bother pointing out that he can score goals in league one?

Simply because we're in League One. Whether he's good enough for the Championship is another debate (none of our team were), but strikers as prolific as Knight aren't easy to come by.

We've been spoilt in Knight and Zamora, and I'll happily wager that no player on our side will equal Knight's tally for us next year.
 






Bwian

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Jul 14, 2003
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Repugnant Toad said:
So it once again comes down to the question;

Do you want player A, who's really nice to everyone and is loved by all, but is frankly a bit shit?

Or do you go for player B, who's something of an arrogant little sod who rubs some people up the wrong way, but virtually guarantees you 25+ goals a year in League One?

I know which I'll go for.

So why not go the whole hog and get yourself a Swansea season ticket? We'd then be spared your non-stop fawning over your hero.
 


bhaexpress

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Repugnant Toad said:
I'll happily wager that no player on our side will equal Knight's tally for us next year.

We said that when Zamora left, remember ?
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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garry nelsons left foot said:
We do now, because the strikers that we had in the championship weren't good enough. Leon Knight being one of them. So what's your point?:shootself

My point is it became very clear early on in the season that we were struggling in the Championship (we were effectively relegated with the ridiculous capitulation to Millwall at Withdean on New Years Eve). Yet McGhee felt it necessary to flog off our most capable striker by a country mile because he couldn't man-manage him or play him in the correct position.
 




dougdeep

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May 9, 2004
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SUNNY SEAFORD
Does no team win at home in the play-offs anymore?
 


bhaexpress

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You have to feel a bit sorry for Brentford, so many times they've just missed out on promotion.

Still, Swansea and Cardiiff has all the makings of a Championship bloodbath. :nono:
 




Beach Hut

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Brooker coming on 2nd half
 






Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Repugnant Toad said:
Simply because we're in League One. Whether he's good enough for the Championship is another debate (none of our team were), but strikers as prolific as Knight aren't easy to come by.

We've been spoilt in Knight and Zamora, and I'll happily wager that no player on our side will equal Knight's tally for us next year.

I have no doubt that none of our strikers will even get close to the 27 goals Leon scored. I'm not disputing his league one goalscoring ability. As I said I rated him as a player when I saw him play. However people were giving him a lot of flack this season (and last) when he was a championship player. People were defending him then as a championship player. We sold him as a championship club when our relegation was far from sealed(whether there's a correlation is yet another debate!) and people were defending him then. The leon debate was always (i thought) about whether he was good enough for the championship, and in particular whether we were shooting ourselves in the foot by selling him.
 


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