[Football] Brentford fan on 606 now

[The Fits]

Excellent article just gone up on the Guardian about club ownership....
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2022/mar/13/stamford-bridge-hosts-dark-day-for-those-who-care-for-footballs-soul-chelsea-newcastle-roman-abramovich
Any real football supporter with even an ounce of humanity would want Bloom as our (or their) clubs owner.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

He s not what he s lead you to believe!
There’s been a few glitches in his rhetoric
That unmask him Use his analytical approach to confirm this
Not what he seems !

I’ve had doubts for a while.

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

Do you honesty think there is some big conspiracy and the media (local or otherwise) are being censored?
The story you mentioned was reported but I would hazard a guess the lack of extra information is because it being dealt with internally, much like any private company deals with employee issues.
The club is 100 million + business and is run accordingly

Conspiracy no. But using that story as an example, rather than publish the Daily Mail version of events, both AN and the Argus waited for the club line rather than deal with the speculation.

Which is fine... but if you take the club line on most things you end up just being another PR vehicle.

To be clear I am not saying Barber is Putin - it's not that bad, but i don't think the local press is very neutral or critical where they could be, probably because they rely on access to players etc for much of their content.

We won't be alone in this either I imagine a lot of clubs are similar

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[Swansman]

I do find you get a tough wrap sometimes but this is just plain dumb. I appreciate you were probably doing something else somewhere else at the time, but bottom of league one - there were definitely not other billionaires floating around waiting to invest. Bloom had been silently investing for a number of years (his first was actually putting in the money to buy Glenn Murray)

How many billionaires have ever bought clubs in league one ?

Two or three maybe. Tony Bloom is very likely the only one who would have bought Brighton and spent a fortune on a new stadium.

But you know, some people take it for granted and appears to truly believe that buying a bad League One club with pretty much zero "brand" would be a "business opportunity" and that if TB didnt do it, someone - maybe Santa or the Tooth Fairy - would have descended from heaven and built the stadium.

AB has done it mostly for himself tho eh? Might be a fan, but gets easily top trumped by him seizing the business opportunity off the back of the years of hard graft by Dick Knight, Martin Perry and the very many Albion foot soldiers doing the door to door stuff on the ground

Those two names could just as easily be transposed. And with the hard yards of planning permission finally granted, somebody would 'of' built it

 

[Swansman]

I’ve had doubts for a while.

If you are referring to me, I dont know what you guys are on about really. I'm just me, no more no less.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Two or three maybe. Tony Bloom is very likely the only one who would have bought Brighton and spent a fortune on a new stadium.

But you know, some people take it for granted and appears to truly believe that buying a bad League One club with pretty much zero "brand" would be a "business opportunity" and that if TB didnt do it, someone - maybe Santa or the Tooth Fairy - would have descended from heaven and built the stadium.

To understand what THPP said there, you need to read MAD MAN written by Dick Knight. There was a falling out when TB took over as DK wanted to be vice-chairman.


Why does every thread turn out to be about you?

 

[BN9 BHA]

Have to say, I'm getting rather tired of some of the sanctimonious posts on NSC telling me what I can and can't think. Other than some of the usual suspects (and perhaps in the very heat of the moment), we are discussing our team in a civil, non abusive manner and all opinions are valid. We are allowed to criticise and still remember where we've come from.

100% this with bells on.

 

[Swansman]

To understand what THPP said there, you need to read MAD MAN written by Dick Knight. There was a falling out when TB took over as DK wanted to be vice-chairman.


Why does every thread turn out to be about you?

I've not read that one but I've heard about the falling out. Still, calling buying Brighton "seizing a business opportunity" is more than disrespectful. The guy has lost gigantic money on your club, there is no "business opportunity".

Not every thread (for instance, not this one) is about me. I'm just participating in it.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I've not read that one but I've heard about the falling out. Still, calling buying Brighton "seizing a business opportunity" is more than disrespectful. The guy has lost gigantic money on your club, there is no "business opportunity".

Not every thread (for instance, not this one) is about me. I'm just participating in it.

Is that what you call it? I call it stirring.

 

[Swansman]

Is that what you call it? I call it stirring.

I rarely stir anything on purpose.

Right now NSC is all sorts of heated and from one angle or another most people could consider someone else "stirring". People who defend the club are accused of being on Paul Barbers payroll. And for those who thinks the club is well run and generally doing fine despite the last few results, the people who are seemingly wallowing in the defeats and misery are also seen as "stirring". And to those who thrive in misery, those of us saying "its not that bad" are accused of "not allowing people to voice their opinions" are probably also seen as "stirring".

 

[Doonhamer7]

Wow, I bet that Brentford fan on 606 didn’t think he create in fighting on NSC.

Who cares what others think, the club is well run - even if I can’t bring a flask (I’d have to buy one first), I also feel like a naughty school boy for having a bottle top in my pocket.

As for giving your opinion if you pay money for something then you have right to say what you feel about the performance, so Barber needs to take criticism and Potter has to understand why some people booed (I’d say through frustration rather than malice). At present the football isn’t enjoyable, it’s too predicable and I’m starting to feel I’d enjoy being in Championship (even if I’d miss seeing the likes of Salah, De Bruyne and Hazard in the opposition teams)

 

[Bozza]

Wow, I bet that Brentford fan on 606 didn’t think he create in fighting on NSC.

Who cares what others think, the club is well run - even if I can’t bring a flask (I’d have to buy one first), I also feel like a naughty school boy for having a bottle top in my pocket.

As for giving your opinion if you pay money for something then you have right to say what you feel about the performance, so Barber needs to take criticism and Potter has to understand why some people booed (I’d say through frustration rather than malice). At present the football isn’t enjoyable, it’s too predicable and I’m starting to feel I’d enjoy being in Championship (even if I’d miss seeing the likes of Salah, De Bruyne and Hazard in the opposition teams)

It's not really fun, is it?

Going through the pain of getting to and from the Amex, again, on Wednesday night isn't thrilling me right now. It shouldn't feel like that.

 

[BNthree]

Take a look at the voting on the latest poll. There definitely are those who consistently declared their lack of support for Potter's continued supremoship. Many stopped posting some time ago.

I will explain my thinking. If you have decided to see the manager gone then say so and stick with it. If you are just musing, then it starts to get creepy. Especially when it goes hand in hand (different people on the same bandwagon) with musings about BarberOUT, money grubbing, blah blah.

I hate all this shit. Who has the money to step in and take the club on? Which bloke, exactly? As far as bottle tops and the like is concerned, this has been explained ad nauseam. As far as signing Callum Striker is concerned, some fat bloke with a red face bursting into Bloom's office and demanding that he knows what's what and who to buy and how (metaphorically, on NSC) is as silly as . . . .

Oh, well. Sometimes I wonder why I bother. Football is supposed to be fun, and engaging in the fan equivalent of war gaming over what the club should be doing and isn't, while claiming at he 11th hour that they are actually four square behind Tony and the project, is all a bit fourth form.

I'm getting close to giving NSC another ten year holiday. I'm rather fond of my club and what I hate most is people, ostensibly supporters, taking the piss out of it. Mocking it, laughing and sniping at it's leadership. As if Bloom and co are clueless.

Have you quoted the right post with that reply? BN9 was saying he doesn’t believe Swansman has seen posts by Albion fans saying they want Bloom to sell the club.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Have you quoted the right post with that reply? BN9 was saying he doesn’t believe Swansman has seen posts by Albion fans saying they want Bloom to sell the club.

No idea. I'm close to losing my will to virtually live

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It's not really fun, is it?

Going through the pain of getting to and from the Amex, again, on Wednesday night isn't thrilling me right now. It shouldn't feel like that.

160 mile round trip for me.

Bring it on

(unless it looks like it may be a bit windy with the possibility of drizzle, then I may have to ....oh look over there! Isn't that a kestrel? You don't get many of them this far south. I was only saying the other day.....)

 

[studio150]

A win Wednesday night and no doubt there will be threads a plenty on how great GP is, best season ever within our grasp, and the push next season for European football.
Alternatively, lose and no doubt some will be demanding to cancel their ST DD, and for GP to be replaced before the Arsenal game.

 

[Wozza]

It's not really fun, is it?

Going through the pain of getting to and from the Amex, again, on Wednesday night isn't thrilling me right now. It shouldn't feel like that.

Exactly.

Mill Road to Amex P'n'R took an excruciating 45min+ on Saturday, so we were late for KO and I was left pondering - yet again: Why am I doing this? (Spending most of our Saturdays on the Albion, that is.)

It's not like we can expect to beat Liverpool, of course. But I came down from London with zero expectation of seeing an Albion goal... or even being entertained.

And the Spurs game is going to be the same. Why do we do this to ourselves?

(I saw my dad a few hours later. He asked if I boo'd.... )

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Exactly.

Mill Road to Amex P'n'R took an excruciating 45min+ on Saturday, so we were late for KO and I was left pondering - yet again: Why am I doing this? (Spending most of our Saturdays on the Albion, that is.)

It's not like we can expect to beat Liverpool, of course. But I came down from London with zero expectation of seeing an Albion goal... or even being entertained.

And the Spurs game is going to be the same. Why do we do this to ourselves?

(I saw my dad a few hours later. He asked if I boo'd.... )

You know

 

[chaileyjem]

Conspiracy no.

To be clear I am not saying Barber is Putin - it's not that bad, but i don't think the local press is very neutral or critical where they could be, probably because they rely on access to players etc for much of their content.

They write a lot of positive articles about the club. It’s a successful club . I get that. But a bit much to suggest they’re censored and insulting too given you’re talking about experienced journalists who’ve worked with multiple regimes, owners and players and managers some of whom literally did want to censor local journalists. So to labour the point here’s plenty of occasions in the last few months when they don’t (Ie- when it’s deserved). Would include Argus articles too but time for bed…

What’s going wrong with Solly March
https://theathletic.com/3167614/202...art-player-whats-going-wrong-for-solly-march/

So much possession, so few chances created.
https://theathletic.com/3165165/2022/03/06/so-much-possession-so-few-chances-created-for-brighton/

Home fans rarely see the best of Brighton
https://theathletic.com/3154193/2022/02/28/home-fans-rarely-see-the-best-of-brighton/

Brighton shocked by poor performance against Burnley - what went wrong
https://theathletic.com/3154193/2022/02/28/home-fans-rarely-see-the-best-of-brighton/

Brighton hope comedy of errors defending is a one off after losing key defender in window.
https://theathletic.com/3113798/2022/02/06/brighton-comedy-of-errors-defence-dan-burn-transfer/

Brighton goal scoring problems can be traced to their midfield.
https://theathletic.com/3024008/202...ing-problems-can-be-traced-to-their-midfield/

 

[Terry Butcher Tribute Act]

They write a lot of positive articles about the club. It’s a successful club . I get that. But a bit much to suggest they’re censored and insulting too given you’re talking about experienced journalists who’ve worked with multiple regimes, owners and players and managers some of whom literally did want to censor local journalists. So to labour the point here’s plenty of occasions in the last few months when they don’t (Ie- when it’s deserved). Would include Argus articles too but time for bed…

What’s going wrong with Solly March
https://theathletic.com/3167614/202...art-player-whats-going-wrong-for-solly-march/

So much possession, so few chances created.
https://theathletic.com/3165165/2022/03/06/so-much-possession-so-few-chances-created-for-brighton/

Home fans rarely see the best of Brighton
https://theathletic.com/3154193/2022/02/28/home-fans-rarely-see-the-best-of-brighton/

Brighton shocked by poor performance against Burnley - what went wrong
https://theathletic.com/3154193/2022/02/28/home-fans-rarely-see-the-best-of-brighton/

Brighton hope comedy of errors defending is a one off after losing key defender in window.
https://theathletic.com/3113798/2022/02/06/brighton-comedy-of-errors-defence-dan-burn-transfer/

Brighton goal scoring problems can be traced to their midfield.
https://theathletic.com/3024008/202...ing-problems-can-be-traced-to-their-midfield/

We are always going to disagree on this one. They still have to write match reports when we lose!

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