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Kaiser_Soze

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Apr 14, 2008
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No, that's America. The victim can choose not to cooperate but it isn't up the victim it's up to the CPS.

Not strictly true. It's very difficult to get the CPS to authorise a charge without a victim statement. The main area of crime where it differs is Domestic Violence. Due to the number of victims fearing repercussions and withdrawing statements, victimless prosecutions were encouraged.
 






Kaiser_Soze

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Apr 14, 2008
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Because unfortunately, in a lot of major cities, there are idiots that will look for a fight with anyone. Staying out till kicking out time was invariably going to invite trouble.

That said, I don't recall the papers or sports media making anywhere near as much of things when David Warner punched Joe Root. His defence was that he thought Root was mocking Kawaja when actually it was a joke with Moeen.
 




Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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That said, I don't recall the papers or sports media making anywhere near as much of things when David Warner punched Joe Root. His defence was that he thought Root was mocking Kawaja when actually it was a joke with Moeen.

They did! Warner was banned for the first two Ashes test matches and the press had a field day here and in Australia. Root or the Walkabout Bar where it happened didn't press charges so the incident never went to the police. Warner actually thought he was mocking Hashim Amla of South Africa, and accepted that he got it completely wrong.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
No, he is the vice captain of his international cricket team, and had a match 36 hours later.
And do we know for certain he was going to play in that match?
 








Steve in Japan

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May 9, 2013
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Really, you think my post is condoning it? Not at all, I was pointing out that whatever had happened, it had obviously upset him a lot to get that reaction, unless he has a history of violence, which didn't think was the case.

How much provocation would it take to make you respond like that? I've no idea if I could ever get that violent/angry, more likely to walk away, but It would seem that some people can't do that. That said, if someone was to physically attack someone in my family perhaps I would retaliate, thankfully that scenario has never been put to me.

According to his interview in the Times last Saturday, he has anger management issues and a Red Bull habit. Pretty much his own words.
 








Steve in Japan

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May 9, 2013
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a red bull habit? does he also have a kenco gold blend habit?

I posted c. #35 on this thread. If I drank red bull and jaegermeister, or re-hydrated with red bull, or drank it "since I was a kid", I'd have issues too. That is an exciting drink. IMHO. With due respect to the manufacturers, I am sure it's effects are entirely beneficial. Although opinions are divided.
 










Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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Stokes and Hales suspended indefinitely.

Pretty much inevitable after the footage was released, which no matter how you look at it in terms of provocation, self defence etc. is going to end up as a day in court for Stokes, and no way and England team can pick a player with that hanging over them. Not sure what Hales involvement is, but simply being there at that time of the morning and being involved unfortunately is also enough to warrant his exclusion.

I can understand one professional sportsman with a load of non sportsman mates getting carried away on a night out with no one around to remind them of their responsibilities, but for 2 of them, and not either to say 'we should call it a night, we have a match Wednesday' is pretty damning for the pair of them.

Stokes is absolute box office at the moment, having won the IPL player of the year, he was the player the whole of cricket would have been tuning into see. What an idiot.
 










vegster

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May 5, 2008
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If and when we lose the Ashes, just remember that The Sun is effectively owned by Rupert Murdoch b. Melbourne, Australia.
 


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