[Politics] Boris Johnson, the new UK Prime Minister

[Chicken Run]

Tessie May thought that too, polls especially YouGov ones aren't worth a hand job

Totally agreed but when a poll commissioned by The Observer suggests Jeremy Corbyn is seen as a weaker leader than Boris Johnson: 38% of those polled believed Johnson had stronger leadership credentials compared to 17 % for Corbyn – a 21 point lead you have to take notice old boy.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

it doesnt matter much to Ireland who started the problem if they are in recession, i would expect the EU to adjust to help them. the beneift or otherwse for UK shouldnt be a consideration - are you suggesting they'll stick to a course of action just to avoid a positve outcome for the UK? if both sides stick to their positions and we go no deal, Ireland comes out badly. i can only assume EU intend to subsidise them heavily in that event.

The EU will look after Ireland (as they should). If the solution is mutually beneficial then great but some seem to expect the EU to bend over backwards to help the UK out. They won’t.




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[Deleted member 2719]

why not, dear old england run by decent human beings instead of well educated mung beans like cameron and johnson?

so how did you arrive at the conclusion that I said that educated people are not decent human beings?

and more importantly, why should privileged, self serving fools run our once great nation?

it's not logical

Because that is what you said.

Just because they have been fortunate to get paid education it does not make them fools, that's just not logical.

I know some very well educated guys who are the salt of the earth and I know of some average working men who are utter scum.

You keep hating public school educated and I will judge people on the beliefs and abilities.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Johnson is quite obviously a prejudiced bigot and I don't know why anyone tries to pretend otherwise - there's not one Old Harrovian in his cabinet.

 

[rogersix]

Because that is what you said.

Just because they have been fortunate to get paid education it does not make them fools, that's just not logical.

I know some very well educated guys who are the salt of the earth and I know of some average working men who are utter scum.

You keep hating public school educated and I will judge people on the beliefs and abilities.

No you completely misunderstand. If those two hadn't gone to Eton, they don't get anywhere near the office of PM; incidentally they are both utter bung holes. Venn diagram, do you see?

If they, and jrm for that matter, had learned something practical instead of Latin they may well be more down to earth, as you put it. They may be decent people more worthy of the office.

Oh, and I don't hate privately educated people, that's you bringing your misguided preconceptions to the party, you are not one to trouble logic at all are you?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

it doesnt matter much to Ireland who started the problem if they are in recession, i would expect the EU to adjust to help them. the beneift or otherwse for UK shouldnt be a consideration - are you suggesting they'll stick to a course of action just to avoid a positve outcome for the UK? if both sides stick to their positions and we go no deal, Ireland comes out badly. i can only assume EU intend to subsidise them heavily in that event.

If no deal prevails, the Republic of Ireland will still be in the EU and so the EU will support them. The issue will be the border and how to deal with the import and export issues/duties which will have to be paid. The Republic will still have Free Trade with the rest of Europe.

The only problems the ROI will have will be:
1. How to police the border.
2. The human cost of any sectarian problems which might arise, which is the main thing everyone is worried about.

Northern Ireland will still be part of Britain, and will be our problem.

The EU's concern is for the people and the political situation in Ireland. Our leaders who are being horribly cavalier about the whole thing don't seem to give a toss about the Irish on either side of the border, including our own citizens.

 

[Ernest]

Totally agreed but when a poll commissioned by The Observer suggests Jeremy Corbyn is seen as a weaker leader than Boris Johnson: 38% of those polled believed Johnson had stronger leadership credentials compared to 17 % for Corbyn – a 21 point lead you have to take notice old boy.

The Observer hates Corbyn more than it does Johnson, I don't take notice of any poll whatever it shows

 

[Deleted member 2719]

No you completely misunderstand. If those two hadn't gone to Eton, they don't get anywhere near the office of PM; incidentally they are both utter bung holes. Venn diagram, do you see?

If they, and jrm for that matter, had learned something practical instead of Latin they may well be more down to earth, as you put it. They may be decent people more worthy of the office.

Oh, and I don't hate privately educated people, that's you bringing your misguided preconceptions to the party, you are not one to trouble logic at all are you?

Okay, I am a big believer in expressing my feelings.

You are boring me senseless.

Bye.

 

[rogersix]

Okay, I am a big believer in expressing my feelings.

You are boring me senseless.

Bye.

that is boris banter for "i have lost the arguement"

top flounce sweetie

keep on contradicting yourself, you are a very impressive individual

 

[Two Professors]

If no deal prevails, the Republic of Ireland will still be in the EU and so the EU will support them. The issue will be the border and how to deal with the import and export issues/duties which will have to be paid. The Republic will still have Free Trade with the rest of Europe.

The only problems the ROI will have will be:
1. How to police the border.
2. The human cost of any sectarian problems which might arise, which is the main thing everyone is worried about.

Northern Ireland will still be part of Britain, and will be our problem.

The EU's concern is for the people and the political situation in Ireland. Our leaders who are being horribly cavalier about the whole thing don't seem to give a toss about the Irish on either side of the border, including our own citizens.

The small matter of getting their time-sensitive exports to the EU without British roads might be more of a problem,as their economy will go tits-up in 5 weeks without a bilateral deal.I don't think a Dublin airlift is feasible!

 

[Chicken Run]

The Observer hates Corbyn more than it does Johnson, I don't take notice of any poll whatever it shows

Good to know.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

I love Boris, we all live in a Boris wonderland, a Boris wonderland, a Boris wonderland. I love all the commies hating him. He owned Corbyn from day one. Seriously, what's not to like?

 

[ManOfSussex]

The Observer hates Corbyn more than it does Johnson, I don't take notice of any poll whatever it shows

The only people I've ever seen buying The Observer at my local newsagent are all public school Tories, so that doesn't surprise me at all. Most expensive Sunday paper too.

 

[Triggaaar]

I didn't make it into Yates I'm afraid, so no.

Poor lass must be gutted.

 

[Chicken Run]

I love Boris, we all live in a Boris wonderland, a Boris wonderland, a Boris wonderland. I love all the commies hating him. He owned Corbyn from day one. Seriously, what's not to like?

Corbyn has 3 ass holes, himself, his poo hole & the new one BJ tore him on Thursday [emoji23]

 

[Sussex Nomad]

Corbyn has 3 ass holes, himself, his poo hole & the new one BJ tore him on Thursday [emoji23]

He's good at bullying female PMs, he's not a match for another bloke.

 

[Ernest]

Corbyn has 3 ass holes, himself, his poo hole & the new one BJ tore him on Thursday [emoji23]

Didn't you realise you were a YANK

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Well maybe you could help out by outlining this magic solution which protects the integrity of the EU's single market, whilst avoiding a border in NI.

You know, this win/win solution that Johnson/Raab/JRM constantly go on about but haven't been able to give an outline description for in the last 3 years

There has never been a completely closed off border between the land of the South and the North so the issue is rather how are the road and rail crossings managed. In pre Anglo Irish Treaty days there were customs checks which not only created the hated physical border but also slowed down trade. There is already a solution; Blockchain platforms are being used in trade finance to dramatically lower processing times at borders. Eventually this technology will render the economics of borders meaningless which means they will only exist for political reasons. Regardless of whether we are in or out of the EU this technology should be backed by Government and yet our leaders seem almost proud of their ignorance. Maybe this explains the failure over the last three years to actually build the required technology on the Irish border. A cynic might suggest that Theresa May’s Remain Government preferred to drag their feet. Either way an opportunity has been missed much to the relief of the ‘there is no alternative to the EU brigade.’
If we are to leave in October there needs to be a temporary political solution combined with a commitment to invest in technology.

 

[Sussex Nomad]

There has never been a completely closed off border between the land of the South and the North so the issue is rather how are the road and rail crossings managed. In pre Anglo Irish Treaty days there were customs checks which not only created the hated physical border but also slowed down trade. There is already a solution; Blockchain platforms are being used in trade finance to dramatically lower processing times at borders. Eventually this technology will render the economics of borders meaningless which means they will only exist for political reasons. Regardless of whether we are in or out of the EU this technology should be backed by Government and yet our leaders seem almost proud of their ignorance. Maybe this explains the failure over the last three years to actually build the required technology on the Irish border. A cynic might suggest that Theresa May’s Remain Government preferred to drag their feet. Either way an opportunity has been missed much to the relief of the ‘there is no alternative to the EU brigade.’
If we are to leave in October there needs to be a temporary political solution combined with a commitment to invest in technology.

Government and technology? They still use IE9!!

 

[JCL666]

There has never been a completely closed off border between the land of the South and the North so the issue is rather how are the road and rail crossings managed. In pre Anglo Irish Treaty days there were customs checks which not only created the hated physical border but also slowed down trade. There is already a solution; Blockchain platforms are being used in trade finance to dramatically lower processing times at borders. Eventually this technology will render the economics of borders meaningless which means they will only exist for political reasons. Regardless of whether we are in or out of the EU this technology should be backed by Government and yet our leaders seem almost proud of their ignorance. Maybe this explains the failure over the last three years to actually build the required technology on the Irish border. A cynic might suggest that Theresa May’s Remain Government preferred to drag their feet. Either way an opportunity has been missed much to the relief of the ‘there is no alternative to the EU brigade.’
If we are to leave in October there needs to be a temporary political solution combined with a commitment to invest in technology.

Having worked on government IT projects until I couldn't cope with the waste and incompetence any more, I would have no faith whatsoever in the Government (or the parasitical consultancies they use) being able to provide a technical solution.