[Politics] Boris Johnson, the new UK Prime Minister

[Grombleton]

All the same.

Taxpayer handed Nick Clegg close to the £115,000 maximum in expenses for carrying out 'public duties' last year despite the ex-deputy PM taking a full-time Facebook job with a £1MILLION salary

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...c-duty-expenses-despite-1m-Facebook-role.html

Perhaps you should look at who was permitting him to claim it, rather than the fact that he put in a claim. Someone had to have said yes to him.

 

[piersa]

The four horsemen will be with us shortly. There is literally nothing positive that can come of this.

 

[Bry Nylon]

The four horsemen will be with us shortly. There is literally nothing positive that can come of this.

I dunno. I quite like horses?

 

[neilbard]

The four horsemen will be with us shortly. There is literally nothing positive that can come of this.

I dunno. I quite like horses?

I couldn't eat four of them though.

 

[*Gullsworth*]

The four horsemen will be with us shortly. There is literally nothing positive that can come of this.

In the legend of the headless horseman is it the horseman who is headless or the horse? In this case headless chicken spring to mind.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It's time the UK let the europeans chase us for a bit.

I know a lot of your posts are wind-ups, but I have to answer this statement.

The Europeans won't be chasing us. Their negotiating team broke up when the Withdrawal Agreement was agreed. Parliament rejected it three times, including the right wing members of the ERG, such as Rees-Mogg.

 

[Mtoto]

This. Agree with every word although with the Remain /Green /Labour lovers on here, you're in for a slating.

Any chance of some numbers to go with this rallying cry to the faithless? eg. why it is that "what goes up must come down" applies equally to a second-tier economy as it does to a top-tier economy? Or how we are supposed to "come back stronger" when almost all of our trade - and 100pc of the trade the matters - will be conducted on worse terms than it is now?

Or do you prefer the role of the happy-clappy true believer shouting "Amen" while Mouldy Boots does his low-rent televangelist routine?

 

[dingodan]

In the legend of the headless horseman is it the horseman who is headless or the horse? In this case headless chicken spring to mind.

 

[BLOCK F]

Starmer seems very good. Contrary to the right wing media depiction, John McDonnell is the most impressive politician I have met by a very long way. And 'genuine working class made good', if that matters. He's really pulling most of the policy strings behind the scenes. And building bridges with those 'business leaders' prepared to listen and talk: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...nell-opens-his-ears-to-big-business-j597ks3qk

Strangely this regularly fails to register with those desperately trying to paint Corbyn's regime as a bunch of 'Islington luvvies'

Good luck with that, Highflyer.
Looks like that article dates back to the last Labour conference. Well, since then there has been an another article ,again in the Times, about the smooth talking reasonable sounding McDonnell, in which the summing up contains words to the effect 'that is why you should be afraid of McDonnell'.
Sorry to be so vague, and I haven't a link, but the theme of the article was, yes, here is a man who wants to be Chancellor and on the face of it ,sounds so reasonable.......until!
This is the self confessed Marxist who wants to overthrow capitalism. He may be a smooth talker, but also a very dangerous man to have in charge of this country's economy.
We don't even have to delve too hard into his past political history to discover that he not quite the avuncular personality he wishes to portray.

 

[Titanic]

I read a suggestion that Boris was considering conferring the power to control civil servants via “Orders in Council” on Dominic Cummings - in the same way that Tony Blair did for Alastair Campbell and Johnathan Powell.

That'll go down well.

 

[beorhthelm]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/02/the-ayn-rand-scene-sajid-javid-reads-every-year/

A grown up man that take Ayn Rand seriously is no working class hero!

yes, working class have to stay working class, cant have them reading and finding new ideas.

 

[highflyer]

Good luck with that, Highflyer.
Looks like that article dates back to the last Labour conference. Well, since then there has been an another article ,again in the Times, about the smooth talking reasonable sounding McDonnell, in which the summing up contains words to the effect 'that is why you should be afraid of McDonnell'.
Sorry to be so vague, and I haven't a link, but the theme of the article was, yes, here is a man who wants to be Chancellor and on the face of it ,sounds so reasonable.......until!
This is the self confessed Marxist who wants to overthrow capitalism. He may be a smooth talker, but also a very dangerous man to have in charge of this country's economy.
We don't even have to delve too hard into his past political history to discover that he not quite the avuncular personality he wishes to portray.

Yes of course large parts of the city and newspaper owners are going to be 'afraid' of him. He's prepared to take them on. Unlike previous Labour regimes. And rightly so.

No one is going to end up dying or suffering as a result of his policies (unlike our current government). They may, however, have to put that second annual ski trip and holiday home in the Bahamas on hold...and that upsets them greatly and makes them hate him and want to destroy him. Greedy f*ckers that they are.

But he's also a pragmatist and a strategist, he's gained some allies in unexpected places.

'overthrow capitalism'? Yes in it's current out-of-control form. But that doesn't mean he's stalinist, despite what the gutter press will try and tell you. As any fool can see, the actual policies coming out of Labour are broadly centre left and mainly about rethinking ownership of capital and how to more fairly redistributing the rewards of capital vs labour. Hardly 'extreme' given that they are very popular with a majority across the country..

He has also understood - properly understood - what climate change means. And is not sticking his head in the sand like so many others on both right and left.
He's does likes to take the piss - as per the 'little red book' episode. Which may or may not have been wise.

 

[BLOCK F]

Yes of course large parts of the city and newspaper owners are going to be 'afraid' of him. He's prepared to take them on. Unlike previous Labour regimes. And rightly so.

No one is going to end up dying or suffering as a result of his policies (unlike our current government). They may, however, have to put that second annual ski trip and holiday home in the Bahamas on hold...and that upsets them greatly and makes them hate him and want to destroy him. Greedy f*ckers that they are.

But he's also a pragmatist and a strategist, he's gained some allies in unexpected places.

'overthrow capitalism'? Yes in it's current out-of-control form. But that doesn't mean he's stalinist, despite what the gutter press will try and tell you. As any fool can see, the actual policies coming out of Labour are broadly centre left and mainly about rethinking ownership of capital and how to more fairly redistributing the rewards of capital vs labour. Hardly 'extreme' given that they are very popular with a majority across the country..

He has also understood - properly understood - what climate change means. And is not sticking his head in the sand like so many others on both right and left.
He's does likes to take the piss - as per the 'little red book' episode. Which may or may not have been wise.

OK Highflyer, you believe what you wish and I will do likewise.
Anyway, have a good weekend and if you are anything like me, you will be scouring the media to glean any info re possible Albion signings!

 

[highflyer]

OK Highflyer, you believe what you wish and I will do likewise.
Anyway, have a good weekend and if you are anything like me, you will be scouring the media to glean any info re possible Albion signings!

I've really lost hope on that front.
But naive optimist that i am, I expect our youngsters, and last years signings to all come good...

 

[Dick Head]

Yes, in 2015. What about the 2017 election? Labour didn't do enough. A gain of 30 seats against an uncharismatic and indecisive May who couldn't command the respect of her MPs? They begun to lose traction in their heartlands. Corbyn is holding Labour back, they need a more young and charismatic leader to take on Johnson.

If an election was called right now, would you have confidence in Labour's leadership in taking the fight to the Tories? I don't.

Just to add, it isn't necessarily Corbyn's ideas that I think are the problem (though I disagree with them as I am a small c conservative), it's ability to communicate his ideas and principles. I don't think he has enough in him to do it, they need a leader with Blair's energy without necessarily giving up on the democratic socialist principles.

My point still stands. If it wasn't for Farage there wouldn't even have been a 2017 election.

 

[SollysLeftFoot]

My point still stands. If it wasn't for Farage there wouldn't even have been a 2017 election.

I guess you didn't bother reading any further at all, because I suppose it's easier to argue that way.

If we had a referendum in 1991-92, we wouldn't have had the referendum party, UKIP, Nigel Farage, brexit, Dominic Cummings, cable as low as it is, a parliamentary democracy crisis and Boris Johnson.

 

[Ernest]

Can't wait to see these new 20k policemen we are getting , only one slight problem is that the Tories have closed and sold off plenty of police stations in the last 9 years so I wonder what the cost will be to reopen or build new ones

 

[Titanic]

Can't wait to see these new 20k policemen we are getting , only one slight problem is that the Tories have closed and sold off plenty of police stations in the last 9 years so I wonder what the cost will be to reopen or build new ones

In public spending terms it's very modest... but it seems like a popular thing to do.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49123319

 

[vegster]

In public spending terms it's very modest... but it seems like a popular thing to do.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49123319

Seems a strange policy after presiding over cuts to the Police budget for the last 10 years. Did the last ten years actually happen ? Has Boris awoken from a 10 year slumber to see his house robbed and trashed and then been left on hold on 101 ? Next up is a minor reverse ferret to increase funding for education, despite 10 years of year on year cuts and the mass exodus of experienced staff.

It's a strange thing, you never see weekly half page ads in the paper begging people to become solicitors, lawyers or bankers ? I wonder why there seems a permanent shortage of teachers despite the government allegedly " Putting more money in to education than EVER before " ?

 

[Titanic]

Seems a strange policy after presiding over cuts to the Police budget for the last 10 years. Did the last ten years actually happen ? Has Boris awoken from a 10 year slumber to see his house robbed and trashed and then been left on hold on 101 ? Next up is a minor reverse ferret to increase funding for education, despite 10 years of year on year cuts and the mass exodus of experienced staff.

It's a strange thing, you never see weekly half page ads in the paper begging people to become solicitors, lawyers or bankers ? I wonder why there seems a permanent shortage of teachers despite the government allegedly " Putting more money in to education than EVER before " ?

They are both sticks that have been used to beat the Tory government, whether with any real evidence of cause/effect or not. If it doesn't cost much in total govt spending terms to make it go away, and it seems to be popular with the voters, it is not really a very surprising move from the new PM, is it?