Boris in hospital

[Yoda]

Sounds familiar. I suspect I had coronavirus with symptoms first showing on Tuesday 24th March and yesterday being the first day that I felt well enough to be back on my feet. So 12 days all in. I probably only had what the experts would describe as a mild case but at various times I had a temperature well into the 38s, fatigue, a total loss of smell, a strange sense of taste, a mild but persistent cough, loss of appetite, a couple of days of nasty diarrhoea, aches in my arms and at one point my chest felt very tight. Even a mild case is still very nasty compared to common illnesses - and that’s without the breathing issues that affect the most serious cases. So all I’d say is don’t panic, I was where you are this time last week and I feel fine now.

The most bizarre thing is, what you describe is almost a carbon copy of the Flu I had February last year (apart from the diarrhea which lasted longer).

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

God bless Boris and all that believe in him
Regards
DF

 

[Mr Putdown]

Agreed. At least on an Emergency Ward he'd likely have been in a private room. No private rooms in ICU....

In my admittedly limited experience, and then admittedly in more normal times, each ICU bed was in a separate room. I fully appreciate things may be different now.

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Some front line staff wearing swimming goggles,
And no I'm not taking the piss!
Regards
DF

 

[Dick Head]

What an unpleasant post. Some things are better left unsaid. I won't be clapping him either, (us old boys don't go in for public displays of emotion) and as a lifetime agnostic I don't say prayers. But we need a leader and he's exactly that. So in the end there's only hope for his recovery...

This clap for Boris nonsense is diluting the message to the NHS. Besides, what am I clapping him for? Because he shook hands with infected patients? Because he said we should "take it on the chin" and accept the herd immunity strategy? And anyway, I already said I wished him a speedy recovery. Unpleasant my arse!

 

[dazzer6666]

In my admittedly limited experience, and then admittedly in more normal times, each ICU bed was in a separate room. I fully appreciate things may be different now.

Definitely not at the moment - ICU capacity has been increased by using other wards that have been cleared out for the purpose. I bet Boris has been found a private room though...................

 

[drew]

I understand that bit, I'm asking about the mentality and the need to put it out there because surely it goes without saying that you don't want someone to die for having a different political view. Not wishing ill health on Boris will not turn you into a Tory.

I suspect it's very much based around a playground mentality of peer group acceptance. Same as when people go to great lengths to make it clear that they don't read the Daily Mail.

It's weird.

Really?

It's been explained to you but you still claim not to get.

 

[jimhigham]

I understand that bit, I'm asking about the mentality and the need to put it out there because surely it goes without saying that you don't want someone to die for having a different political view. Not wishing ill health on Boris will not turn you into a Tory.

I suspect it's very much based around a playground mentality of peer group acceptance. Same as when people go to great lengths to make it clear that they don't read the Daily Mail.

It's weird.

It's perfectly reasonable to disagree with somebody while wishing them a full and speedy recovery. It's possible that this is stated so that the poster isn't accused of hypocrisy, having expressed anti-Johnson views in the past. The Internet is a combative place and there are always people who will misconstrue remarks, whether for giggles, political capital or ignorance. Some might see any harsh words in the past as invalidating any sympathy for the PM now. My guess is that people popping in the "I'm not a Tory" caveat are just getting their defence in first.

Actually, I've even bored myself with that reply.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

It's perfectly reasonable to disagree with somebody while wishing them a full and speedy recovery. It's possible that this is stated so that the poster isn't accused of hypocrisy, having expressed anti-Johnson views in the past. The Internet is a combative place and there are always people who will misconstrue remarks, whether for giggles, political capital or ignorance. Some might see any harsh words in the past as invalidating any sympathy for the PM now. My guess is that people popping in the "I'm not a Tory" caveat are just getting their defence in first.

Actually, I've even bored myself with that reply.

I wish everybody suffering from the virus a full and speedy recovery.. That said, I probably wish it more for doctors and nurses who have fallen ill than for any politician because NHS staff are more use.

 

[Bold Seagull]

It's perfectly reasonable to disagree with somebody while wishing them a full and speedy recovery. It's possible that this is stated so that the poster isn't accused of hypocrisy, having expressed anti-Johnson views in the past. The Internet is a combative place and there are always people who will misconstrue remarks, whether for giggles, political capital or ignorance. Some might see any harsh words in the past as invalidating any sympathy for the PM now. My guess is that people popping in the "I'm not a Tory" caveat are just getting their defence in first.

Actually, I've even bored myself with that reply.

It would seem this is the most likely (and obvious) answer. So worth posting for those struggling with the concept.

 

[GT49er]

Not going to clap. As with minute's silences, or a minute's applause at football matches, too many of them just become meaningless, and even a tad irksome. Clap for the NHS and Carers on Thursday, yep, fine - it shows our appreciation. Clapping for Boris ain't going to do him any good anyway; I'll just go on quietly hoping he gets well.

 

[Triggaaar]

Quick update. Ambulance on way now. I need to go into hospital

Good luck spence, get well soon.

 

[Lever]

It's perfectly reasonable to disagree with somebody while wishing them a full and speedy recovery. It's possible that this is stated so that the poster isn't accused of hypocrisy, having expressed anti-Johnson views in the past. The Internet is a combative place and there are always people who will misconstrue remarks, whether for giggles, political capital or ignorance. Some might see any harsh words in the past as invalidating any sympathy for the PM now. My guess is that people popping in the "I'm not a Tory" caveat are just getting their defence in first.

Actually, I've even bored myself with that reply.

... nonetheless it's an excellent reply

 

[Lever]

Not going to clap. As with minute's silences, or a minute's applause at football matches, too many of them just become meaningless, and even a tad irksome. Clap for the NHS and Carers on Thursday, yep, fine - it shows our appreciation. Clapping for Boris ain't going to do him any good anyway; I'll just go on quietly hoping he gets well.

Good response; same here!

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

It's perfectly reasonable to disagree with somebody while wishing them a full and speedy recovery. It's possible that this is stated so that the poster isn't accused of hypocrisy, having expressed anti-Johnson views in the past. The Internet is a combative place and there are always people who will misconstrue remarks, whether for giggles, political capital or ignorance. Some might see any harsh words in the past as invalidating any sympathy for the PM now. My guess is that people popping in the "I'm not a Tory" caveat are just getting their defence in first.

Actually, I've even bored myself with that reply.

I would have thought this was perfectly obvious, but seemingly not.

 

[Dick Head]

Not going to clap. As with minute's silences, or a minute's applause at football matches, too many of them just become meaningless, and even a tad irksome. Clap for the NHS and Carers on Thursday, yep, fine - it shows our appreciation. Clapping for Boris ain't going to do him any good anyway; I'll just go on quietly hoping he gets well.

This. All day long.

 

[Palacefinder General]

Not going to clap. As with minute's silences, or a minute's applause at football matches, too many of them just become meaningless, and even a tad irksome. Clap for the NHS and Carers on Thursday, yep, fine - it shows our appreciation. Clapping for Boris ain't going to do him any good anyway; I'll just go on quietly hoping he gets well.

What impact do you think not clapping for the NHS would have?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

What impact do you think not clapping for the NHS would have?

Reverse the question. Clapping the NHS workers means the appreciation can be heard by those workers. There’s a nurse, a paramedic and an IT NHS worker in my road.
Clapping Boris on the south coast isn’t going to carry all the way to London.

 

[Billy the Fish]

Really?

It's been explained to you but you still claim not to get.

Either you don't understand what I'm saying or (more likely) you're pretending not to so that you don't have to accept an uncomfortable truth.

 

[Billy the Fish]

It's perfectly reasonable to disagree with somebody while wishing them a full and speedy recovery. It's possible that this is stated so that the poster isn't accused of hypocrisy, having expressed anti-Johnson views in the past. The Internet is a combative place and there are always people who will misconstrue remarks, whether for giggles, political capital or ignorance. Some might see any harsh words in the past as invalidating any sympathy for the PM now. My guess is that people popping in the "I'm not a Tory" caveat are just getting their defence in first.

Actually, I've even bored myself with that reply.

Fair answer.