Caveman
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- Jul 14, 2003
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Oh my ****ing god. Are you related to him because the way you're coming across then Bloom shit doesn't stink.
You're Palace!
Oh my ****ing god. Are you related to him because the way you're coming across then Bloom shit doesn't stink.
Everything you say would be sound if the club were making a profit - the problem though is that it is making consistent losses.
There is a strong case to argue that if we are relegated then losses next season would actually be less than if we remain in the Championship.
Long term of course relegation won't improve our chances of getting to the promised land of the Premier League, the club's only real hope of ever returning a profit.
Christ you talk some shite£200m and we'll be back where we were a few years ago, Withdean. We'll have the same crowds. Only difference being we'll have an white elephant instead off a forest. Not bad going is it, spending £200 million only to end up back at square one.
£200m and we'll be back where we were a few years ago, Withdean. We'll have the same crowds. Only difference being we'll have an white elephant instead off a forest. Not bad going is it, spending £200 million only to end up back at square one.
Yes, yes, and yes but... those losses would and will be greater if you actively seek to undermine your number one income stream! It just makes no sense for the board not to 'care', non whatsoever - indeed it would represent a form of business kamikaze.
Kosh
Club mojo very low. I keep checking NSC, hoping, expecting the inevitable sacking but it just hasn't come. I'm totally bemused. We're shit and we know we are but nothing is changing.
OK, this is ridiculous now.
Sami is immune from the sack.
A limpet and a barnacle.
So what is it we don't know ? What is Tony's thinking ?
Tony is no fool.
Best case, I suppose, is that we have 2 or 3 Leverkusen players lined up for January, dependent on Sami staying.
More of a hope, really.
There are two ways of looking at the model of how a modern day football club owned by a wealthy individual works.
The most commonly perceived one is that the club is treated as a business by the owner with the eventual objective of making a profit, and when the club is making a loss the owner is effectively subsidising the income generated by the fans in order to keep it solvent.
The second, and equally valid view, is that the club is treated by the owner as a hobby with the eventual objective of being one of the top clubs, and the revenue generated by fans subsidises the cost to the owner of indulging in that hobby.
Hopefully TB falls into the second category as a true fan and wants to see the club do as well it possibly can in competition with other teams in the League - a pure businessman on the other hand might well consider relegation in the short term as the most cost effective option.
I hope you're right. Sadly I'm ultra cynical and whilst I accept Tony is a supporter, he's now chairman and one who's invested massively in the club - The only publically available fact here regards his aim to seemingly comply and adhere to FFP regulations, based on this he must surely be a relatively 'pure business man' at least in some respects. I suspect he's caught somewhere between a rock and a hard place - he'd like (I'm sure) to back the club to the hilt and b u g g e r the possible consequences. Nonetheless I'd say his current stance is prudent in many ways, I think we all know he has the best interests of the club at heart, and wants to stabilise the managerial merry-go-round if possible. He'll also want to maximise income and maintain our status as a championship club (I doubt he'd advocate a cost saving relegation, although I'm dubious this could be achieved - evidence from other clubs?!?), and be acutely aware of the timescales etc. involved.
Let's face it we're only 'just' (ha!) in the relegation area, not good enough yes, but we're not finished yet. Sami has a little wriggle room, but Friday is absolutely key for the Hyypia family Christmas.
Kosh
It is the SCMP, (Salary Cost Management Protocol), limiting players wages to 60% of turnover, reported on a monthly basis, that does limit losses in League 1.
The other major factor of course is the introduction of the new FFP regulations for the Championship coming into force next season - permitted losses have been increased from £5M to £39 million over three years for the majority of clubs, (up to £83M for clubs relegated from the Premier League). It is reasonable to assume that in order for the club to compete in the Championship that player's wages would increase and that club losses would approach the £13M level.
I really can't believe that Tony would shove off 'down under' with the situation
as it is. It would be like a captain leaving a sinking ship.
Something has to happen today.
Everything you say would be sound if the club were making a profit - the problem though is that it is making consistent losses.
There is a strong case to argue that if we are relegated then losses next season would actually be less than if we remain in the Championship.
Long term of course relegation won't improve our chances of getting to the promised land of the Premier League, the club's only real hope of ever returning a profit.
What you suggest is alarming. If the club are willing to wait for the academy to produce then this scenario, where we would be a big fish in a small pond, is worryingly possible. All on hold for 5 years, and as long as the team are reasonably competitive in League One crowds would be between 12 and 18k and I imagine wages would fall dramatically. If TB is unwilling/unable to fund Championship football any longer relegation,it appears,may not be the disaster it appears to be to fans at the moment. It would explain why Sami is being left to get on with it as staying up may no longer be considered the be all and end all?
i seriously do not consider sami capable of managing a team in league one either. so any plan to let him take us down and then back up again is fatally flawed from the outset.
Hopefully gone i hope
i am of this view as well - sadly.i seriously do not consider sami capable of managing a team in league one either. so any plan to let him take us down and then back up again is fatally flawed from the outset.
Albion boss Sami Hyypia has thanked the Board for their backing as he fights to save his job.
Hyypia’s future was discussed during a Board meeting yesterday.
It was scheduled before the successive defeats against Fulham and leaders Derby which have left the club in the Championship relegation zone and before chairman Tony Bloom heads off to Australia for the winter.
The Seagulls face fellow strugglers Millwall in a crucial clash in front of the Sky cameras at the Amex on Friday night with Hyypia grateful for the backing of the hierarchy.
They have refused to bow to fan pressure calling for the head of the workaholic Finn during a run of one win in the last 16 league games.
Hyypia, speaking before the Board meeting, told The Argus: “As long as I am in this position I feel I have the backing of the Board. People are being very supportive and I want to thank them for that, because they understand and see what is happening.
“Of course, I am responsible for everything but they can see how we do our work and what’s happening on the pitch. I would still say they wouldn’t need to say to me I have their backing, because I can feel it, I can see it, and as long as I am wearing this (Albion) shirt then I have the backing.
“I’ve never had a feeling that I didn’t have that but it would be great if sometimes I was able to switch off as well. I am thinking constantly about what we could do better, what we need to change to do better or how we can get more out of the players more consistently.
“It would be great if I could switch off, think about something else and come back more effective.”