Blackpool - Should they be fined or docked points?

[Robski]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Blackpool even HAVE a reserve team playing.

In which case why is everyone getting so butthurt about them putting out a 'reserve' side? Why have 25 players registered if the PL are going to fine a club for fielding players who aren't in the regular first choice matchday squad of 18? If they are all in the first team squad they are all eligible to play first team football.

Obviously the wealth/resources of the club will have a bearing on the strength of the rotation players, but for the Premier League to say that clubs like Chelsea and Man Utd can make wholesale changes to their side for a league game to rest players for the Champions League - a competition so bloated and far removed from domestic football its untrue - is fine, but clubs like Blackpool can't when the fixture computer spews out periods of congestion, because it demeans the precious Premier League, is at best double standards, at worst f***ing corrupt.

Villa played four non-first choice players from the start and had another five on the bench. Should they be fined as well? As it turned out, Blackpool could and possibly should have got something out of the game, so the players they brought in were competitive.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Premier League has become disillusioned , in the so called 'give the fans the most enjoyment possible' They want to fine him as the viewers of the game yesterday didn’t; get the enjoyment they 'deserve' for watching the 'best league in the world'.

I'll give you another example.
Officials are told NOT to give foul throws as it 'slows down the enjoyment for the spectator'

Total Farce.

 

[Carrot Cruncher]

I'm sure this point has been made, but what is the point of the PL making it's members name a 25 man squad if the club isn't allowed to play any combination of that 25 that it bloody well pleases?

The PL is morally bankrupt anyway, so you can stick the 'integrity of the competition' argument up your bollocks.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Premier League has become disillusioned , in the so called 'give the fans the most enjoyment possible' They want to fine him as the viewers of the game yesterday didn’t; get the enjoyment they 'deserve' for watching the 'best league in the world'.

I'll give you another example.
Officials are told NOT to give foul throws as it 'slows down the enjoyment for the spectator'

Total Farce.

Saw one given at Bolton!

Thats the same through the leagues, i dont think i have seen a proper throw in for years.

 

[Robski]

Premier League has become disillusioned , in the so called 'give the fans the most enjoyment possible' They want to fine him as the viewers of the game yesterday didn’t; get the enjoyment they 'deserve' for watching the 'best league in the world'.
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One would counter the PL by questioning whether a game which finished 3-2 - and there could/should have been more goals - was less entertaining than the dross that the 'Giants' of Manchester served up last night? SAFF and Mancini should be fined for putting half the country to sleep last night.

 

[Kuipers Supporters Club]

Saw one given at Bolton!

Thats the same through the leagues, i dont think i have seen a proper throw in for years.

Your Right
As a Referee, Your told not to unless it is Stupidly obvious!

 

[Rich Suvner]

Wow. That's a remarkably ill-informed post. We're not talking about squad rotation here, we're talking about effectively throwing a game. There's a massive difference between Alex Ferguson bringing in Smalling and Park for Rio & Giggs, and Holloway changing 10 players out of 11. Blackpool's starting lineup yesterday had six players who had never played in the Premiership before, and the entire 11 had made a total of 14 starts between them.

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of this (and it's definitely wrong), the FA have made a precedent by charging Wolves, and they must do the same to Blackpool.

shut up you pillock. if drawing 2-2 with a minute to go isn't competitive what is?

 

[tonymgc]

No. Why shouldn't Holloway pick whatever team he likes?
As long as he's picked from his squad of 25 what's he done wrong?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Doesn't matter if you dock 10 points, do nothing or GIVE them 10 extra points, they'll be f***ing off back to the lower leagues at the end of the season anyway.

Win saturday and they are half way to saftey mark

 

[Spiros]

I think he put out a side he *hoped* would get a result despite it being severely weakened. To say he actually "threw" the game is a bit strong I agree - but the point is, he did NOT put out a team that had the best possible chance of getting a result there.

What he's done is what McCarthy did last season at OT. He's take a step back and looked at the bigger picture - that being that points against West Ham this Saturday will probably turn out to be be far more valuable than points against Villa last night, because its West Ham, not Villa, who Blackpool will be jostling with come the end of the season.

He's doing the best overall for BFC, which is fair enough. The manner of it just leaves a bit of a sour taste I think.

Holloway's and McCarthy's jobs are to do the best for their club and that means maximising their chances of staying up. I don't think that McCarthy threw the game at OT last year any more than Holloway did last night - they just prioritised their limited resources towards getting the most points they could. It's not seen as cheating when Man U field a weak team in the Carling Cup and get knocked out, is it? Or is that OK because 'its only the cup?' Do we want even more rule changes to be made to benefit only the 'best' teams? I could understand the furore if these managers are just putting parks players out against Man U and Villa but their 'reserves' are experienced professionals all registered as part of a squad of 25. They should be able to chose any of those they like. After all it's not the anonymous suit from the FA that gets fired if Wolves get relegated, is it?

 

[crodonilson]

From my Premier League rulebook:

The Rule
20. In every League Match each participating Club shall field a full strength team.

Wolves broke it, now Blackpool have broken it. Scudamore, throw the book at them.

 

[keaton]

From my Premier League rulebook:

The Rule
20. In every League Match each participating Club shall field a full strength team.

Wolves broke it, now Blackpool have broken it. Scudamore, throw the book at them.

A reasonable definition of full strength team would be players from the first team squad, wouldn't it? If not, Arsenal left out Walcott last night who's their second top scorer should we fine them?

 

[crodonilson]

A reasonable definition of full strength team would be players from the first team squad, wouldn't it? If not, Arsenal left out Walcott last night who's their second top scorer should we fine them?

I guess it's ambiguous in the case of replacing 1, 2, 3 or 4 players but there can be no doubt if you replace 10 of your starting eleven from the previous game then you cannot be playing a full strength team.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

From my Premier League rulebook:

The Rule
20. In every League Match each participating Club shall field a full strength team.

Wolves broke it, now Blackpool have broken it. Scudamore, throw the book at them.

Who and how do you decide what a full strength team is? Plenty of the top clubs in the EPL have also broken that rule.

 

[sten_super]

From my Premier League rulebook:

The Rule
20. In every League Match each participating Club shall field a full strength team.

Wolves broke it, now Blackpool have broken it. Scudamore, throw the book at them.

Are you also purporting to 'throw the book' at Everton for resting Yakubu last night? How about Villa for resting Ireland and Agbonlahor? Arsenal (Van Persie, Walcott, Nasri)?

 

[Spiros]

From my Premier League rulebook:

The Rule
20. In every League Match each participating Club shall field a full strength team.

Wolves broke it, now Blackpool have broken it. Scudamore, throw the book at them.

By your reasoning Man U should be fined almost every time they play before or after a champions league game then. They are always 'resting' players., whereas the likes of Blackpool and Wolves only do it a few times a season and play the same players week in, week out otherwise. Also define 'full strength' - if 2 players are both in the 25 man squad it's only a matter of one person's opinion against another whether player A is better than player B.

 

[hillbilly]

From my Premier League rulebook:

The Rule
20. In every League Match each participating Club shall field a full strength team.

Wolves broke it, now Blackpool have broken it. Scudamore, throw the book at them.

On 24th May 2009 Manchester United went to Hull City on the final day of the season. Hull stayed up as Newcastle lost.
Man Utd made 10 changes to the side that played 8 days before v Arsenal. It would have been 11 except Darren Fletcher was already suspended. There side included Lee Martin (now on loan at Charlton from Ipswich).
Manchester United did not face any punishment. What a f**king surprise.

 

[Bwian]

From my Premier League rulebook:

The Rule
20. In every League Match each participating Club shall field a full strength team.

Wolves broke it, now Blackpool have broken it. Scudamore, throw the book at them.

Who are they to determine who should or should not be playing for a team, and more importantly, how do they know who should be playing when they haven't got a frigging clue about any other aspect of English football?

The moment the football authorities are allowed to determine who should play and who shouldn't is when I look for another sport to follow.