Bird Flu time to get alarmed or will just blow over?

[colinpants]

it's caused a bit of a flap....

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

Where do you get that figure from? Tamiflu is a prescription drug, so shouldn't cost more than £6.50 if you obtain through the NHS.

tami flu now proven to be ineffective.

 

[Vicar!]

I note that even in the confines of Rural China it has not mutated, death toll is very low globally at the moment.

That said if you want to worry, AIDS is still carrying away millions each year, and for that matter so is Maleria.

Vicar

 

[Grendel]

tami flu now proven to be ineffective.

Source?

 

[Gwylan]

I note that even in the confines of Rural China it has not mutated, death toll is very low globally at the moment.

That said if you want to worry, AIDS is still carrying away millions each year, and for that matter so is Maleria.

Vicar

Quite. There's been talk of a bird flu epidemic for well over a year now and yet, even in a part of the world with poor living conditions and with close contact with chicken, the death toll is still really low (I'm not even sure it's reached a 100 yet).

But then, a few years ago we faced a SARS epidemic, a few years earlier, it was going to that flesh-eating disease (forgotten its name) and before that Ebola fever. Last year, New York was supposed to be facing an epidemic of killer mosquitoes and expecting 1000s of casualties. The total western deaths from all of these? Under 10 I believe.

But as Vicar points out, AIDS is a big killer and malaria is no laughing matter - but these don't get headlines as they're not trendy diseases.

I predict that more people in the UK will die on the roads this year than will die of 'bird flu' in the next decade - but that won't hit headlines either.

 

[Easy 10]

Looking at 30% of the UK being serioulsy incapacitated for a two - three week period, suitable plans are drawn up. Hopefully better than those for F&M, etc....

Being as the mortality rate for those afflicted with bird flu is about 50%, this would mean that 15% of the UK population is about to be WIPED OUT.

Be handy if they were all Man U "fans".

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

It's one of the most serious documents we have seen for some time, top-rated medical source as well. They are taking it seriously, all sorts of contingency planning being lined up for it. They are rating the contingency plans as being more complicated than the firemen's strike and foot&mouth together.

Hopefully all this will kick off after I have returned my kit, as military aid to the civil community is going to be somewhat manpower intensive - free labour replacements to man dustcarts (again) ambulances (again) fire tenders (again)......etc, etc

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

Source?


Radio 5... Sky News and Turkish Ministry of Health.....

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Not just us getting a little worried about it all. Makes sense to make contingency plans!

Planning for Flu

 

[Brovion]

Hopefully all this will kick off after I have returned my kit, as military aid to the civil community is going to be somewhat manpower intensive - free labour replacements to man dustcarts (again) ambulances (again) fire tenders (again)......etc, etc

Yeah, but I suppose it's for a 'good cause' this time as opposed to the military just being used as strike-breaking, scab labour.

No offence, like.

 

[HampshireSeagulls]

Yeah, but I suppose it's for a 'good cause' this time as opposed to the military just being used as strike-breaking, scab labour.

No offence, like.

Or bailing out wasters who can go on strike whilst knowing that the Forces will be forced to step in and work all the extra hours without overtime payments, and then having to return to normal jobs in which they have to take government-inflicted pay rises for less than the tossers whose jobs they have just been doing because they are legally unable to go on strike.

Then again, it was fun taking a shit in a fireman's hat and leaving it in his locker to be found later.

As you said, no offence, like.

 

[Grendel]

Radio 5... Sky News and Turkish Ministry of Health.....

At present there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Tamiflu is ineffective. There's been speculation that it may be ineffective in standard dosage and treatment cycle but no study has even been conducted on this, let alone proven it. The speculation seems to stem from a report that 2 Vietnamese patients have died from Avian Flu despite being treated with Tamiflu. No mention is given of their dosage, how often they had been on the treatment, or the physical state (e.g. were they elderly or infirm before they contracted the flu) that they were in at the time. Tamiflu claims to reduce deaths from flu by up to 90%, which means that statistically 10% of people will still die from it. All in all, hardly convincing evidence for the ineffectiveness of the drug.

 

[Hiney]

Bird flu hits TURKEY!

To go with the outbreak of Herpes in Cockermouth

 

[SULLY COULDNT SHOOT]

At present there is no evidence whatsoever to suggest that Tamiflu is ineffective. There's been speculation that it may be ineffective in standard dosage and treatment cycle but no study has even been conducted on this, let alone proven it. The speculation seems to stem from a report that 2 Vietnamese patients have died from Avian Flu despite being treated with Tamiflu. No mention is given of their dosage, how often they had been on the treatment, or the physical state (e.g. were they elderly or infirm before they contracted the flu) that they were in at the time. Tamiflu claims to reduce deaths from flu by up to 90%, which means that statistically 10% of people will still die from it. All in all, hardly convincing evidence for the ineffectiveness of the drug.

In return... source?

 

[Grendel]

In return... source?

World Health Organisation, Roche Products, New England Journal of Medicine, the FDA Pediatric Advisary Committee, Gilead.

 

[Faldo]

Roche Products

Roche are still very very positive about there product last I heard - and whilst I cannot be bothered to check, I think the shareprice should reflect this...

 

[Deleted User X18H]

This is quite interesting reading!