Billy Sharp - tweaked his ankle a little bit. (but with God's grace, might live)

[hart's shirt]

IF Denton and Stubbs prove right... I will be SICKENED, and it will take the gloss of what was a GREAT day.

I'm going out now. I will watch it later. I HOPE it is not as deliberate and nasty as is being suggested.

But even if they're not proved right, you'll still probably have a good night out.

 

[LamieRobertson]

IF Denton and Stubbs prove right... I will be SICKENED, and it will take the gloss of what was a GREAT day.

I'm going out now. I will watch it later. I HOPE it is not as deliberate and nasty as is being suggested.

they aren't right no way were they deliberate..i thought the game was being played hard by both sides...5 bookings...3 of which were donny

 

[pork pie]

Grow up lads. The challenge was horrendous. I've seen it a dozen times on video. When you get a chance to see it, you'll withdraw your comments.

It was decided yards before. It was high. It was from behind. It was from an angle whereby there was virtually no chance whatsoever of getting the ball. It was a potential career-ender and you will not see a more clear-cut straight red.

The difference with the tackles by Spurr & Naylor was clear. Neither of those were from behind. Both were reckless and fully deserved yellow cards, but both were from angles that allowed the Brighton player to take evasive action. Dunk's gave Sharp no chance. THAT is why tackles from behind are so dangerous, and why they are supposed to result in red cards when contact is made like this.

An appalling lax decision by the ref and I suspect he will be sickened when he sees the replays.

Maybe if the Ref hand sent two of your monkeys off for the fouls on KLL and Barnes, he would have been a bit more careful? One thing is certain. It was not intentional.

 

[Scampi]

Grow up lads. The challenge was horrendous. I've seen it a dozen times on video. When you get a chance to see it, you'll withdraw your comments.

It was decided yards before. It was high. It was from behind. It was from an angle whereby there was virtually no chance whatsoever of getting the ball. It was a potential career-ender and you will not see a more clear-cut straight red.

The difference with the tackles by Spurr & Naylor was clear. Neither of those were from behind. Both were reckless and fully deserved yellow cards, but both were from angles that allowed the Brighton player to take evasive action. Dunk's gave Sharp no chance. THAT is why tackles from behind are so dangerous, and why they are supposed to result in red cards when contact is made like this.

An appalling lax decision by the ref and I suspect he will be sickened when he sees the replays.

I was watching a stream of the fox soccer coverage. Imo looked like a yellow, not a red, nowhere near as bad as you suggest, the surprise was that Sharp had to go off, as it looked pretty innocuous. Don't recall the commentators even mentioning the possibility of it being a red.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Maybe if the Ref hand sent two of your monkeys off for the fouls on KLL and Barnes, he would have been a bit more careful? One thing is certain. It was not intentional.

with u on this...i saw the incident quite clearly..and dont need several replays...no way was it a malicious tackle...and i do hope sharp recovers quickly

 

[ROSM]

On first view it looked a very firm challenge but then so did the ones on kll and Barnes. The difference is that a player seems to have got badly hurt and nobody wants to see that. Fingers crossed it isn't as bad as feared. You have to wonder why he was helped to his feet if it is as bad as feared.

 

[Seagull27]

No manager least of all Gus Poyet is going to tell a young up and coming teenage player just breaking into the first team to "do a job" on someone

Totally this. Given his comments previously on some players' treatment of LuaLua, there's no way Poyet would stand for, let alone suggest, our players going out to intentionally foul someone. The tackle was bad but to suggest it was a deliberate attempt to take out the player is ludicrous. I'd put it down to inexperience on Dunk's part.

 

[Billy Stubbs' Tears]

Apparently the ref has apologised to John Ryan and said he should have given a red card. I fail to see how you see it any other way. It's high. It's from behind. There wasn't the slightest chance of him getting to the ball with Sharp's leg in the way.

I'm not saying it was intentional but it was stupidly reckless and a potential (maybe an actual) career-ender.

Be big lads about this. If one of you players was in pot tonight after a tackle like that, you'd be sitting there saying, "Ah well. It happens" would you? You're spitting fire at a couple of challenges in the first half which resulted in neither of your players even having to receive attention from the physio!

 

[Billy Stubbs' Tears]

On first view it looked a very firm challenge but then so did the ones on kll and Barnes.

There is a huge and crucial difference. The (bad) challenges on your lads were not from behind. THAT's the issue. A tackle from behind that is high and aggressive is particularly dangerous because the other lad doesn't see it coming. You tackle high and hard from behind, you HAVE to get the ball. End of story. If you don't, you have to walk, because the result can be an opponent put out of the game for months or for good. Dunk's tackle was reckless in the extreme and the result is a career put in jeopardy. You cannot find excuses for that.

 

[tedebear]

Wow, I didn't expect people who are clearly so experienced in watching football to be so naive about the reality of professional football. Teams do what they have to do to WIN. Do you not find it odd that Doncaster put in several very hard tackles on KLL exclusively, and the one player we happen to put in one exceptionally forceful challenge on is their goalscorer and only real threat? A tackle from behind, with both feet being buried in the player's ankle?

Guys, I know we love our club and some people are 'loyal' enough to fight and even kill because they 'love their club so much' - but there is being naive and there is being ignorant of the facts. Players are frequently told before and during matches to 'keep tight' to XYZ player, and 'let them know you're there'. I am NOT saying he meant to break his leg, but he definitely badly fouled him with no realistic prospect of getting the ball.

And it won us the game.

It was a very bad tackle, but for you to suggest it was a changing room order is fairly serious stuff, so I'd wind my neck in if I were you. I'm not suggesting it doesn't happen, but that sort of thuggery belongs no where near BH&A and your comments have made an already bad situation rather much more unpalatable. If Poyet has shown you nothing since he arrived it is that flowing, stylish football that he has brought has absolutley no elements of agression in it at all, mostly passionate and articulate football.

 

[pork pie]

Apparently the ref has apologised to John Ryan and said he should have given a red card. I fail to see how you see it any other way. It's high. It's from behind. There wasn't the slightest chance of him getting to the ball with Sharp's leg in the way.

I'm not saying it was intentional but it was stupidly reckless and a potential (maybe an actual) career-ender.

Be big lads about this. If one of you players was in pot tonight after a tackle like that, you'd be sitting there saying, "Ah well. It happens" would you? You're spitting fire at a couple of challenges in the first half which resulted in neither of your players even having to receive attention from the physio!

Oh for f ucks sake! How can you come on here talking like that after your monkeys deliberately did a job on KLL and Barnes, and our young rookie made a clumsy challenge? Typical f ucking yorkie!

 

[BUTTERBALL]

Dunk is in no way malicious. It was an accident, a poor challenge but not deliberate. I can't imagine that he is feeling great about it. Hopefully it won't be as bad as feared.

 

[hart's shirt]

With tackles flying in from both teams, I'm surprised that none of our players didn't get hurt. The law of averages would suggest it would have happened sooner rather than later.

Then again, substituting Lua Lua probably saved him another 45 minutes of being buffetted.

Of course we're disappointed that Rovers long injury list has been further lengthened, but it's all starting to sound just a little bit precious now.

Accidental injuries happen in contact sports. Get over it.

 

[Billy Stubbs' Tears]

Remind me. How many months are Lua Lua and Barnes out of the game for? Grow up you tit.

 

[Seagull27]

Apparently the ref has apologised to John Ryan and said he should have given a red card. I fail to see how you see it any other way. It's high. It's from behind. There wasn't the slightest chance of him getting to the ball with Sharp's leg in the way.

I'm not saying it was intentional but it was stupidly reckless and a potential (maybe an actual) career-ender.

Be big lads about this. If one of you players was in pot tonight after a tackle like that, you'd be sitting there saying, "Ah well. It happens" would you? You're spitting fire at a couple of challenges in the first half which resulted in neither of your players even having to receive attention from the physio!

I don't think anyone's arguing that it was a bad challenge and probably deserved a red - but it does look all the worse because of the injury that resulted. I honestly believe that the challenges from Spurr on LuaLua warranted a red card, and the challenge on Barnes could easily have resulted in a career-ending injury; Barnes was just lucky that he wasn't hit in the wrong place. Two footed challenges at knee height should go for a red every time.

Not trying to defend the decision on Dunk/Sharp, but the player isn't the sort who would do it intentionally or go in for a hard challenge with injury in mind. Clumsy and rash, yes, but the lad is still very young and I'd say it is mostly down to inexperience and a misjudgement.

I think you get most people's sympathy on here with regards to your luck (or lack of it) with injuries.

 

[ferring seagull]

I have to say, and although perhaps not in very the best position to judge, I thought neither tackle was deserving of a red card and no worse than those seen in the first half against Albion players, and I think that it is prudent to wait to decide on the extent of injury before deciding if there was any malicious intent.

I don't believe that GP or anyone else at BHAFC would either sanction or encourage that sort of play/behaviour. Indeed, if anyone at our club did so I believe they would have soon been on their way out.

The next few hours/days will determine whether or not there is any substance or whatever. Two players wheeled off under non obvious circumstances (I reserve judgement for the moment)

I seriously and genuinely hope that neither player has been seriously injured and personally believe it may have something to do with lack of match fitness and our rather large playing surface.

 

[Marshy]

Im not commenting on this until i have seen it on TV

At the time it never even crossed my mind it was a BAD one at all, and i was bang in line with it in the East Stand.

Will wait and see though.

Regardless of this i hope Sharp makes a speedy recovery.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Remind me. How many months are Lua Lua and Barnes out of the game for? Grow up you tit.

We had it last season, losing Navarro in August and LuaLua in November. Nobody likes to see bad injuries and I'm sorry your players are badly injured. Despite what some fans are saying there is no way any of our team would 'do a job' on another player. It was clumsy but it was an accident.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Remind me. How many months are Lua Lua and Barnes out of the game for? Grow up you tit.

seems u need to grow up and get off yur mums tit

 

[Augustus]

There is a huge and crucial difference. The (bad) challenges on your lads were not from behind. THAT's the issue. A tackle from behind that is high and aggressive is particularly dangerous because the other lad doesn't see it coming. You tackle high and hard from behind, you HAVE to get the ball. End of story. If you don't, you have to walk, because the result can be an opponent put out of the game for months or for good. Dunk's tackle was reckless in the extreme and the result is a career put in jeopardy. You cannot find excuses for that.

The only difference is luck. Barnes and LuaLua were lucky to escape without injury, unfortunately (and i truly mean that) your lad wasn't.

Things happen so quickly in a game of football that when Dunk was committing to the challenge he thought the ball was there to be won, but in a split second Sharp's position changed and he got badly hurt.

You see plenty of worse tackles that go in from the front, and are probably more dangerous because the bones are more exposed at the front on the leg, and your point about them not seeing it coming from behind doesn't mean they wont be able to get out of the way of one coming from the front