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[Albion] Billy Gilmour



Oh_aye

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Jul 8, 2022
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Yesterday according to sofascore.com in 57 minutes he attempted 5 ground duels and won zero.

Caicedo, in 33 minutes, attempted 6, winning 4.

Perhaps it's just a confidence thing, but it's just not happening for Billy at present.
It's just not his game though. Whatever the hell a 'ground duel' is. I'm not sure he can cut it in a 2 in midfield unless the other one is a monster. His game is on the ball, where he looks good and his passing attempts are mostly progressive and positive. Trying get the ball forward. He's going to be a useful player but only in specific circumstances. I don't think one on one wrestling for the ball with Phillip Billings is particularly it.
 










Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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I was watching on Sparks yesterday when subbed he really didn’t look happy was ranting to Welbeck when back on the bench who didn’t look at all interested and ignored him 😄
 








Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
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Worthing
I see Billy as Lallana's understudy for the more advanced role. He's less suited to the deeper pivot role where its about quick accurate passes to draw the press.

Groß seemed to be in more open positions first half an hour and Gilmour didn't see that much of the ball. He improved as the game went on and was at his best in the period before he was subbed. Plenty of positive aspects, and he's only young and can only get better.

Plus, anyone will look less capable than a pairing of Mac Allister and Caicedo...
 






Dibdab

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Sep 28, 2021
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In the first half thought Billy grew into the game whilst Gross was pretty much awol. Must be pretty hard to play in a centre two, being relatively slight in size, with Pascal as your wing man.
 






Johnny RoastBeef

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Jan 11, 2016
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According to Pat Nevin, who works for Chelsea TV, so he saw a lot of Billy previously.

Talking about a game for Scotland v Denmark,

Nevin explained (BBC): “Billy plays in the Jorginho position – he sits in front of the defence and he controls it. It is like clockwork the way he passes it and moves it about. In the first half, the team wasn’t playing particularly well at all, and he wasn’t playing in the position that suits him.

“Breaking forward from midfield is not Billy’s game. Billy’s game is controlling from a deeper area. Yes, he will break forward sometimes, but when he dropped back in that area we got more control of the game.”

I think he will come good, possibly next season when he is likely to fill a vacancy in centre midfield and play more regularly.
 


Littlemo

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Aug 25, 2022
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I think I said it in the match thread but I thought that 4-4-2 was a bit of a mistake. It didn’t work against Liverpool with Mac and Gross in the middle, they got overrun till RDZ changed it, so I don’t know why he thought it would work with Gilmour and Gross.
 


BRIGHT ON Q

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Jul 5, 2003
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Let's face it he was chucked in at the deep end yesterday with all our other 3 out, thought he did well, always offering for the ball. Definitely a player in there.
 




WhingForPresident

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Feb 23, 2009
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Thought he was OK, needs a physical presence alongside him though. In Football Manager terms, I'd put his most-suited position as the 'deep lying playmaker' behind two other centre mids.
 


Originunknown

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Aug 30, 2011
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Haven't seen what he's really capable of still I feel but some very disappointing performances, and I've been at every game he's had minutes.

Slightly better yesterday but wasn't helped partnering Gross in midfield and playing 2 up top, which was surprising. Another midfielder would have taken the pressure off and perhaps balanced us, but absolutely understandable not starting Moises.
 
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Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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I thought he did OK. If Undav had tucked away one of his 3 misses then with a lead it would have given Billy more space to pass into.
 




One Teddy Maybank

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This. Lots of endeavour and work rate, but he slowed the game down and passed to them creating danger. RDZ couldn’t hide his frustration.
Exactly. Positionally, he is quite poor and didn’t put himself in a position to regain possession once lost, it also enabled Plucky to play around him several times. Gross didn’t have a great game either IMO, but some of that was due to him covering BG.
 




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