Thunder Bolt
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Ivan Toney who is being investigated for betting on matches?
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[Football] Ben White
- Thread starter murciagull
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Is that the same Toney that was found out to have illegal bet about a week before the World Cup squad was announced? That Toney?
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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Without any verification from a reliable source Southgate accepts Sterling's assertion that his family are at home and have been robbed at gunpoint. On returning home the police state both assertions are incorrect. Not just minor detail errors?
Yes, me too. Taking a quick look at the Arsenal fan forums, a fairly common view seems to be that he is a laid-back easy going lad, and if indeed it's true that he did go off on one, it would have taken somebody (Holland?) doing something pretty c***ish to set him off.Call me biased but I’m team White without knowing the full details
We may - or may not - find out what exactly happened one day. My guess is that we probably won't, at least not until after he's retired and a journo from The Sun or The Athletic ghost-writes his autobiography.
Solid at the back
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I'm glad you agree. He is such a bellend. Will be in the US before long, thank goodness!
One of 26 falls out with the coach so you send the coach home ? No issues with anyone else ? Probably not……problem is quite easy to identify and solve.
What doesn't add up is the idea that the news of the break in wouldn't have come to the England camp through official (and very reliable) channels.
Shooting Star
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NSC’s underlying contempt for Southgate strikes again. 25 players plus various others praise Southgate for his man-management and culture he’s created in the England camp. One rumour that one fringe player fell out with the management/squad, and instantly it’s “that wanker who said once upon a time that he’d pick on form” Southgate’s fault. Amazing.
Cheeky Monkey
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- Jul 17, 2003
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NSC is full of idiots fella. You'd have to be a complete idiot to post on here in the first.
keaton
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- Nov 18, 2004
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I wouldn't expect a coach to have a heated argument with a player, that doesn't sound desperately professional and conducive to a good squad
Depends if it’s behind closed doors and what’s gone on before
Impossible to judge without knowing the circumstances. What, for example, if the whole squad had been asked to do something and Ben was the only one who hadn’t done it, or refused to do it ? The England set-up is pretty professional across the board from anything I’ve seen - my guess is Ben has royally pissed someone off or acted like an arse.
No, Ivan Toney who was being investigated even before his first selection in the squad for a friendly and who was cooperating fully with the FA over incident and who hadn't made a bet on any match he had been involved with.
Still not professional by the coach. You don't know when we might need to utilise a player during a tournament.
Do you honestly expect any of the players to criticise the man that might pick them for an appearance in the final, the biggest game of their career. Time will tell.
That's your assumption that it wasn't from reliable sources. At the time it was reported that might have been the information they had. His house was burgled (people apprehended). I find it bizarre that you're trying to concoct some sort of conspiracy around it all.
If the player is being a complete idiot, never.
Depends what the circumstances were……how unprofessional was White’s behaviour??
Yep. A very smart previous boss once said to me ‘better to have a hole in your team than an asshole in your team’ (no, wasn’t just before he fired me in case you were wondering
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Thunder Bolt
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What behaviour? It’s just a rumour, at present.