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[Football] Ben White and our Gareth









BiffyBoy100

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Apr 20, 2020
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Absolutely he's doing fine. I wasn't for a second implying he wasn't.

Despite that, footballers at the top of the game have entire teams based around them to maximise every single penny of income they can get whilst they're playing. Benjamin will be no different to this - as you say, he is playing at the top of the game at club level. I don't think English perception is particularly important to this - it's about sponsorships and commercial interest really and that is all part of pre-tournament buzz anyway.
My point was less around England fans perception and more around the commercial risk playing for the national team.

Those teams around him need him to be popular to maximise the return.

Off topic but was Beckham more or less commercially valuable directly after the 1998 World Cup? - I don’t know the answer but imagine less and then there’s the mental part going back to your club.

Unfortunately I don’t think we’ve come that far as we saw in the last euros so I’d argue playing for England isn’t as lucrative as we think.
 




Hamilton

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Yup. Agree with all your recent posts about this.
Just to add a few things - calling players out during or after a game is different. Using what is basically social media noise to attack a player is not that.
White has proven time after time he is a fully commited footballer. On his loans where he always excelled. When he knuckled down for the season here. When he lost his place in the Arsenal team, and was then moved to RB. And even here, seems he has been professional. Brave enough to say 'actually I don't think I (and perhaps some mates) have been treated fairly' without turning into a social media circus.
Some people won't hear anything negative about Engerland and anyone connected to them but clearly this coach (a supposed brains of the team) has totally misread the room on this one.
Good posts.

When I’ve seen Ben interviewed I get the impression of quite a shy lad. It could be that he’s quite happy in his own skin and own world at Arsenal and is just happy dealing with that pressure. I have no doubt he’d agree that it’s an honour playing for England, but perhaps the young man just wants to focus on one thing at a time.
 




CAPTAIN GREALISH

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Good posts.

When I’ve seen Ben interviewed I get the impression of quite a shy lad. It could be that he’s quite happy in his own skin and own world at Arsenal and is just happy dealing with that pressure. I have no doubt he’d agree that it’s an honour playing for England, but perhaps the young man just wants to focus on one thing at a time.
Ye his looks
 








Hamilton

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I was thinking precisely the same thing.

We have some brilliant players in the squad but they are playing awfully. It is patently not their fault. It is the manager’s fault.

I imagine that as soon as Southgate is sacked then Ben White will make himself available.

Shambles.
 


Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
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Well, Benjamin obviously saw enough previously to know this shitshow was coming down the track.

Bet he’s double-glad now that he’s not wasting his summer sitting on bench in a Nike bib and picking up cones with Steve Holland.
Utter nonsense.
 


¡Cereal Killer!

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Sep 13, 2003
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I imagine that as soon as Southgate is sacked then Ben White will make himself available.

Shambles.
It would be very telling if he did.

I reckon he will still be "unavailable" for the next managers first squad, but will be available again from at least second or third squad, that is of course if it is because he doesn't want to play under Southgate
 




dazzer6666

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It would be very telling if he did.

I reckon he will still be "unavailable" for the next managers first squad, but will be available again from at least second or third squad, that is of course if it is because he doesn't want to play under Southgate
 




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