Baroness Thatcher - Dead / RIP

[Racek]

This is going around now.

No state funeral for Maggie Thatcher - e-petitions

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Playing devil's advocate for a second here, I find myself wondering whether history would have judged her the same if she'd been male.

 

[Biscuit]

Would you say the same about Blair?

On the whole, yes.

Surestart, Foxhunting, public service reform, Iraq..


OK not the last one.

 

[mikeyjh]

It does make me wonder this thread, it makes me wonder who among us are old enough to have lived through Maggies time and who have just jumped on bandwagons.

I'm old enough, I grew up in Derbyshire (big mining area if you are young) and I know how she is regarded back home..... I really hope that those who champion her recognise that not all of us judge the state of the nation by the material wealth of the South-East....

 

[Lady Whistledown]

This is going around now.

No state funeral for Maggie Thatcher - e-petitions

Brilliant. A petition to try and stop something that isn't happening. Well done them

 

[Hotchilidog]

From the Beeb;

She will not have a state funeral but will be accorded the same status as Princess Diana and the Queen Mother.

Who's paying for it? The Thatcher estate or public purse.

 

[Biscuit]

I never celebrate a death, and my condolences go to the family of Margaret Thatcher, but I will remain dry eyed and tight lipped until enough time has passed to begin discussing her political life.

 

[rool]

Playing devil's advocate for a second here, I find myself wondering whether history would have judged her the same if she'd been male.

Not with that hair and in those dresses.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Dead?

Made me laugh out loud. Good work Sir.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Who's paying for it? The Thatcher estate or public purse.

Was the public purse but has just been privatised.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Re: Baroness Thatcher - RIP

Brilliant. A petition to try and stop something that isn't happening. Well done them

...and closes in February 2014. Unless there is a very long and protracted autopsy, I reckon she might have been buried or cremated by then.

 

[pork pie]

It's interesting that people talk about her policies not being popular but yet she won three general elections.

History would suggest her policies were popular.

Exactly, but not to some of the the bitter little left wingers on here obviously. Maybe it has to do with the fact they have had a sheltered upbinging from beardy left-wing tree hugging teachers in quiet little Sussex?

 

[Mellotron]

Playing devil's advocate for a second here, I find myself wondering whether history would have judged her the same if she'd been male.

Worse, I would argue. A lot of people's defence for her is simply that "she was the first woman PM".

 

[PWA]

87 is a good age. I'd be happy with that.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Who's paying for it? The Thatcher estate or public purse.

No idea.

However unlike Churchill she is not having a full state funeral, which I suspect she is entitled to, as technically she was a war time leader.

 

[Elvis]

Yes, no doubt some miners at the time. But they were not viable, and have far better standards of living now after the money she pumped into their areas to regenerate them. Just because some people lots their jobs, it was still the right thing to do at the time. Have you ever spoken to people who's dads were miners, and asked them if they feel lucky not to have followed them down pits, and to be in decent modern jobs now? I have, and they do!

That is exactly as your username suggests.

 

[Hotchilidog]

Playing devil's advocate for a second here, I find myself wondering whether history would have judged her the same if she'd been male.

Given the reaction to her male counterpart Blair, I'd say no. Her gender actually had very little to do with her politics, it is for actions and style of leadership she will be remembered.

 

[BUTTERBALL]

Ambivalent feelings towards Thatcher. Admire her strength and resolve, abhor some of her policies and ideals.

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

This is going around now.

No state funeral for Maggie Thatcher - e-petitions

Think there are a lot of bandwagon jumpers here who are ill-informed - as the BBC are saying there is NO state funeral......at Thatchers request, if anything the jumpers are doing what Thatcher wants !!

 

[Kumquat]

Seconded.

Thirded. Just wish we could have an honest debate over how divisive she was over the next few days and thn move on but sadly it will be just sycophantic rubbish. I hope that once the furore dies down, those of us that loathed her for what she did, can concentrate our focus and ire on those currently echoing it. Particularly The Sun newspaper and those elements of the current Government that demonise the poor.