Banner in support of No to Hull Tigers campaign ???

[TWOCHOICEStom]

Some people on this thread make me laugh.

The owner is doing something that (I guess) the vast majority of Hull Fans do not want and not only do they not want it, they're angry about it. And it's a change which is being made purely because the owner fancies it. There's very little business case for it.

It's the principal of the thing that I don't like. The same with Vincent Tan. I don't give a rats arse where he comes from. But it smacks of the owner not caring about the fans and using the club as his plaything.

I understand you can't make decisions based on the individual opinions of 30k fans - you'd never get anywhere. But showing such blatant disregard for their feelings says to me that the owner cares more about his own agenda than the club itself. And that's wrong.

Of course, in the grand scheme of things it's no big deal. They've still got their nice stadium in the Premier League, and boohoo they might have a different name, so what right?. But where does it end? The essence of a club means a lot to a great deal of people, taking away that feeling of "this is our club" is something that no owner should ever do. Tony Bloom has done his best, IMO to avoid sending that message and that's why we're so bloody lucky.

So, in my opinion, we should support them. It's a selfish choice that their owner is making and the more these types of things happen, the more they will continue to happen in the future.

If supporting fellow football fans (just like you and I) makes you CRINGE, maybe you should ask yourself why that is rather than criticising others who are trying to help.

 

[The Large One]

"Neanderthals" FFS. Brighton fans turning on each other as some of us don't want a banner supporting a Premier leagues team campaign. I just don't agree we need to get involved in every cause because we once had fans united. I think too many people miss those days and have forgotten we are just another football club

I don't think hardly anyone wants a banner of our own - that idea has been universally dismissed.

But we're not 'getting involved'; we're being asked for moral support. You can still have moral support, banter and the much slavered-after hostility in one go. They're not mutually excluse.

Once upon a time, Hull City fans came good when we asked for their support. They didn't 'get involved', they showed support. I don't think it's too much to ask to reciprocate if they ask for it.

However, there are some, it seems, who find returning a small part of the favour embarrassing, cringeworthy and fey, and is evidently too much to ask for.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Changing the name will not make the slightest bit of difference to the appeal of Hull City overseas in my opinion.
There are only a few clubs these worldwide plastics follow and that is Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City because it is like Man Utd and possibly Chelsea. Everyone else is possibly considered too crap and embarrassing.

I agree with Hull supporters it is a stupid idea. Leave the name alone.

 

[enterprise]

Some people on this thread make me laugh.

The owner is doing something that (I guess) the vast majority of Hull Fans do not want and not only do they not want it, they're angry about it. And it's a change which is being made purely because the owner fancies it. There's very little business case for it.

It's the principal of the thing that I don't like. The same with Vincent Tan. I don't give a rats arse where he comes from. But it smacks of the owner not caring about the fans and using the club as his plaything.

I understand you can't make decisions based on the individual opinions of 30k fans - you'd never get anywhere. But showing such blatant disregard for their feelings says to me that the owner cares more about his own agenda than the club itself. And that's wrong.

Of course, in the grand scheme of things it's no big deal. They've still got their nice stadium in the Premier League, and boohoo they might have a different name, so what right?. But where does it end? The essence of a club means a lot to a great deal of people, taking away that feeling of "this is our club" is something that no owner should ever do. Tony Bloom has done his best, IMO to avoid sending that message and that's why we're so bloody lucky.

So, in my opinion, we should support them. It's a selfish choice that their owner is making and the more these types of things happen, the more they will continue to happen in the future.

If supporting fellow football fans (just like you and I) makes you CRINGE, maybe you should ask yourself why that is rather than criticising others who are trying to help.

14 pages in and complete sense as above. Hard to add to that apart from stating the obvious that we have a fan as an owner and should count ourselves as so lucky. Oh hang on that will upset some as we're not spending millions in an attempt to go up. We're simply stabilising the club, planning for the future and giving us a club to be proud of years to come.

 

[Notters]

Did they really?

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It's a Leicestershire beer !

They did! At least it's a decent ale.

 

[Hotchilidog]

I don't think hardly anyone wants a banner of our own - that idea has been universally dismissed.

But we're not 'getting involved'; we're being asked for moral support. You can still have moral support, banter and the much slavered-after hostility in one go. They're not mutually excluse.

Once upon a time, Hull City fans came good when we asked for their support. They didn't 'get involved', they showed support. I don't think it's too much to ask to reciprocate if they ask for it.

However, there are some, it seems, who find returning a small part of the favour embarrassing, cringeworthy and fey, and is evidently too much to ask for.

This! The Hull City fans have fought a hard campaign on this and I am happy to lend any moral support to it that they require. This does not preclude me from hoping we give them a good hiding on the pitch and get into the quarter finals.

 

[sparkie]

14 pages in and complete sense as above. Hard to add to that apart from stating the obvious that we have a fan as an owner and should count ourselves as so lucky. Oh hang on that will upset some as we're not spending millions in an attempt to go up. We're simply stabilising the club, planning for the future and giving us a club to be proud of years to come.

Absolutely. When we go up a league ( if we are lucky enough to ) then we simply need the infrastructure in place to compete - otherwise it's massive ongoing annual losses, and Tony hasn't got an infinite money pot to raid.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Christ another love in... we really need to man up a bit!

It's anything but a love in.

People seem very non-plussed about things like this happening to other teams but it's the next step to franchise football. MK Dons started it, Cardiff and Hull are taking it to the next level. I doubt it will be long before most the PL is using a franchise model.

Renaming the team may seem insignificant but it really is the thin edge of the wedge and proper football fans ignore it at their peril.

 

[Return of the Rev]

I think gold and black balloons is the only way to save HULL CITY TIGERS!
Where were hull when the Brighton tigers went tits up?

 

[Hamilton]

"Neanderthals" FFS. Brighton fans turning on each other as some of us don't want a banner supporting a Premier leagues team campaign. I just don't agree we need to get involved in every cause because we once had fans united. I think too many people miss those days and have forgotten we are just another football club

No no no.

This is symptomatic of the problem we face. I'm not asking for Albion to be seen as the golden fans of football, but why should we want to be just another football club?

I'm not saying we should get involved in every cause, or create a banner, but we can show support where an issue needs support.

Football goes to the very heart of communities. As much as it is dying on its arse, watch what happens when teams get through to the next round of the FA cup. Towns unite. People go bananas. It brings people together.

Football - due to its success - is much more than a game and it's much more than just any other business. Businessmen and women should not be allowed to treat these clubs like their playthings. They are owners for just a brief part of the clubs history. In fact, they are not owners. What their money buys them is the privilege to be the custodian of the club.

They say that what almost kills you makes you stronger. My fear, my biggest fear, is that we are forgetting to learn from what almost killed us. This might be a meaningless little name change to a premier league club, but if we treat this matter with such disinterest then who will rallying around the next change and the next and the next until we get to one that the Albion actually cares about.

My advice to those that don't care about Hull's name change. Shut up. Be quiet. Let those of us that want to make our feelings known about their fans treatment do so. After all, it doesn't mean anything to you so it's no skin off your nose.

 

[n1 gull]

It's anything but a love in.

People seem very non-plussed about things like this happening to other teams but it's the next step to franchise football. MK Dons started it, Cardiff and Hull are taking it to the next level. I doubt it will be long before most the PL is using a franchise model.

Renaming the team may seem insignificant but it really is the thin edge of the wedge and proper football fans ignore it at their peril.

What about changing kits, managers etc.. You just can't fight every battle under the hideous 'football family' banner.
Football is tribal and I enjoy that rivalry. It doesn't mean that I don't drink and talk to the opposition, but I don't like it when self appointed fan groups represent my club. Do what you want on an individual basis, but don't lump us all in together

 

[Westdene Seagull]

What about changing kits, managers etc.. You just can't fight every battle under the hideous 'football family' banner.
Football is tribal and I enjoy that rivalry. It doesn't mean that I don't drink and talk to the opposition, but I don't like it when self appointed fan groups represent my club. Do what you want on an individual basis, but don't lump us all in together

Can't see how any suggestion here automatically "lumps us all in together".

What I do find strange is the attitude on here from many that a name change isn't really that much of an issue but roll back to Withdean when it was muted that we would have music when we scored a goal and the whole board goes spastic ! It's a bizarre world.

 

[Woodingdean Gull]

Some people on this thread make me laugh.

The owner is doing something that (I guess) the vast majority of Hull Fans do not want and not only do they not want it, they're angry about it. And it's a change which is being made purely because the owner fancies it. There's very little business case for it.

It's the principal of the thing that I don't like. The same with Vincent Tan. I don't give a rats arse where he comes from. But it smacks of the owner not caring about the fans and using the club as his plaything.

I understand you can't make decisions based on the individual opinions of 30k fans - you'd never get anywhere. But showing such blatant disregard for their feelings says to me that the owner cares more about his own agenda than the club itself. And that's wrong.

Of course, in the grand scheme of things it's no big deal. They've still got their nice stadium in the Premier League, and boohoo they might have a different name, so what right?. But where does it end? The essence of a club means a lot to a great deal of people, taking away that feeling of "this is our club" is something that no owner should ever do. Tony Bloom has done his best, IMO to avoid sending that message and that's why we're so bloody lucky.

So, in my opinion, we should support them. It's a selfish choice that their owner is making and the more these types of things happen, the more they will continue to happen in the future.

If supporting fellow football fans (just like you and I) makes you CRINGE, maybe you should ask yourself why that is rather than criticising others who are trying to help.

This

Sense at last.

 

[Ady1964]

I think we should just concern ourselves with taking this great opportunity to reach the Quarter Finals!
The whole North Stand (or stadium) should join together in singing the same songs and chants and make the atmosphere as hostile as possible!
To get to the Quarters, Semis or even the Final would be unbelievable. I was 19 in 1983 and it was one of the most fantastic and memorable times of my life. It would be fantastic if we could get that far again and let the whole new generations of fans experience the same thing............maybe even win it this time!!
Can you hear it now........'and Ulloa must score, and does!' Sends a shiver up the spine just thinking about it!!
UTA!

 

[n1 gull]

Can't see how any suggestion here automatically "lumps us all in together".

What I do find strange is the attitude on here from many that a name change isn't really that much of an issue but roll back to Withdean when it was muted that we would have music when we scored a goal and the whole board goes spastic ! It's a bizarre world.

You are missing the point. Goal music at OUR club, name change at their club.

If TB suggested a name change I would go mental, I just wouldn't be asking Hull fans for support.

 

[Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews]

Some people on this thread make me laugh.

The owner is doing something that (I guess) the vast majority of Hull Fans do not want and not only do they not want it, they're angry about it. And it's a change which is being made purely because the owner fancies it. There's very little business case for it.

It's the principal of the thing that I don't like. The same with Vincent Tan. I don't give a rats arse where he comes from. But it smacks of the owner not caring about the fans and using the club as his plaything.

I understand you can't make decisions based on the individual opinions of 30k fans - you'd never get anywhere. But showing such blatant disregard for their feelings says to me that the owner cares more about his own agenda than the club itself. And that's wrong.

Of course, in the grand scheme of things it's no big deal. They've still got their nice stadium in the Premier League, and boohoo they might have a different name, so what right?. But where does it end? The essence of a club means a lot to a great deal of people, taking away that feeling of "this is our club" is something that no owner should ever do. Tony Bloom has done his best, IMO to avoid sending that message and that's why we're so bloody lucky.

So, in my opinion, we should support them. It's a selfish choice that their owner is making and the more these types of things happen, the more they will continue to happen in the future.

If supporting fellow football fans (just like you and I) makes you CRINGE, maybe you should ask yourself why that is rather than criticising others who are trying to help.

Good Post. I'm not getting the spray can and a bed sheet out based on this thread, but If a Hull City fan directly asked me to I'd do it in an instant

 

[drew]

It's anything but a love in.

People seem very non-plussed about things like this happening to other teams but it's the next step to franchise football. MK Dons started it, Cardiff and Hull are taking it to the next level. I doubt it will be long before most the PL is using a franchise model.

Renaming the team may seem insignificant but it really is the thin edge of the wedge and proper football fans ignore it at their peril.

What an utterly ridiculous comment. Irrespective of the rights or wrongs of the establishment of MK Dons, how on earth can you compare moving a club from one location to another 80 miles away and to try and generate a virtually completely new fanbase with a simple name change and in doing so suggest the name change is worse ! I can understand the Cardiff uproar but even then it's not the worst thing that can happen to a club.

No no no.

This is symptomatic of the problem we face. I'm not asking for Albion to be seen as the golden fans of football, but why should we want to be just another football club?

I'm not saying we should get involved in every cause, or create a banner, but we can show support where an issue needs support.

Football goes to the very heart of communities. As much as it is dying on its arse, watch what happens when teams get through to the next round of the FA cup. Towns unite. People go bananas. It brings people together.

Football - due to its success - is much more than a game and it's much more than just any other business. Businessmen and women should not be allowed to treat these clubs like their playthings. They are owners for just a brief part of the clubs history. In fact, they are not owners. What their money buys them is the privilege to be the custodian of the club.

They say that what almost kills you makes you stronger. My fear, my biggest fear, is that we are forgetting to learn from what almost killed us. This might be a meaningless little name change to a premier league club, but if we treat this matter with such disinterest then who will rallying around the next change and the next and the next until we get to one that the Albion actually cares about.

My advice to those that don't care about Hull's name change. Shut up. Be quiet. Let those of us that want to make our feelings known about their fans treatment do so. After all, it doesn't mean anything to you so it's no skin off your nose.

I think the problem is that this is seen by many to be quite an insignificant change which doesn't make a material change to the club or it's support and therefore appears that you are likely to get involved in every cause. As a football fan, surely the situation at Portsmouth deserves more action than that at Hull but because of feelings between the supporters there is no support on here for them. Where are all your posts about the situation at Coventry? Did you get up in arms when Stevenage changed their name? And at the end of the day, you only give two hoots about this because we are playing them. What have you done about this issue, which has been known for some time, before the draw was made?

 

[Woodingdean Gull]

Hull is a horrible place with horrible people I think for one day and one day only we should ditch Sussex by the sea and let the players come out to I'm a Tiger . ?

Just curious, how many times have you been there and how many people from Hull do you know?

Good job you weren't posting on here when we were trying to persuade John Prescott, (from Hull), to let us build our new stadium at Falmer!

 

[Betfair Bozo]

On the give a toss meter it rates a 0.2. Have a look at the World and all the shit that is going on and then be thankful the biggest crisis in your life is that your football team renames itself.

Of course you are correct but then if you are going to use that as your comparison point then there is no point in commenting on football matters ever is there. Which would render this site pretty meaningless.

 

[Hamilton]

What an utterly ridiculous comment. Irrespective of the rights or wrongs of the establishment of MK Dons, how on earth can you compare moving a club from one location to another 80 miles away and to try and generate a virtually completely new fanbase with a simple name change and in doing so suggest the name change is worse ! I can understand the Cardiff uproar but even then it's not the worst thing that can happen to a club.



I think the problem is that this is seen by many to be quite an insignificant change which doesn't make a material change to the club or it's support and therefore appears that you are likely to get involved in every cause. As a football fan, surely the situation at Portsmouth deserves more action than that at Hull but because of feelings between the supporters there is no support on here for them. Where are all your posts about the situation at Coventry? Did you get up in arms when Stevenage changed their name? And at the end of the day, you only give two hoots about this because we are playing them. What have you done about this issue, which has been known for some time, before the draw was made?

Uh oh. The sheep has spoken. Bore off. You add nothing to the debate.