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The Birdman

New member
Nov 30, 2008
6,313
Haywards Heath
I don't surpport the Green Party however I believe looking after our planet recycling saving water solar energy wind farms on the top of the downs building more hedge rows etc encouraging farmers to have wild life boarders around farms. Also encourage garderners to plant insect friendly plants we can all help look after our environment. Oh get on your Bike:thumbsup:
 










keaton

Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
Nov 18, 2004
9,972
The country has a national debt of just a few quid shy of £1.2 trillion.

That's around £19,000 for every man woman and child in the UK.

Every household in the UK will pay at least £1,914 on interest this year, and next year, and many years after.

You can blame the Con-Dems for a lot, but you can't blame them for trying to reduce those debts.

As for the Greens, they are spending £1,500,000 on a 20mph Green City limit, and wasting more millions on bus and cycle lanes.

No wonder that one half of their councillors don't want anything to do with the other half.

TB

So Tory cuts in public sector pay aren't their fault and are a necessity, but the Greens cuts in pay it's their choice.
We are going to have an even better Paralympic team in Rio because pretty much every Tory doesn't have a leg to stand on at the moment
 
















Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,760
Buxted Harbour
As soon as I saw that name, I thought of something I've been coughing up most of the Week.

Why do those with some of the most naff names in history become Brighton Councillors? The aforementioned Phelim. Jason Kitcat. Then there was ol Nimrod Ping some years ago.

You just know the Greens are going to have kids called Tarquin, Zynnaiah and Ocean.....

It reminded me of that Father Ted episode where they are sent to protest outside the cinema....

"Aaahh hello fathers, have you seen the Phe-lim yourselves?"
 








The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
52,343
97.2FM
You wouldn't get any support for Jason Kitcat from me.

It's probably better to look at the realpolitik here.

This has come to a head from the dispute with Cityclean. Council officers sought about standardising contracts across the council; this was because many staff were on different contracts due to working for different councils pre-1997. No council administration had sought to standardise the contracts until now - 16 years. The majority of public sector workers ended up with a pay settlement which meant they were on or above the council's 'Living Wage' structure; a kind of minimum wage, but set in reality. This isn't a Green idea - many councils (including Conservative ones) have adopted this. It's set at about £7.19 an hour, I think. What the contracts re-alignment meant was that the dustbinmen's salaries would be cut. Naturally, they were unhappy and called an unofficial strike. They went back after two days, having received a promise of a review, but are currently working on a 'work to rule'.

To cut to the chase, many felt - and feel - that the binmen have been sold out. To that end, many Green councillors, plus Caroline Lucas came out in support for the binmen - in other words, staying true to their principles over and above party politics. However, the Tories, some Labour and Kitcat's closest supporters support the pay cut.

No-one can deny there is a split in the Green Party locally, and I'd rather see Kitcat go. I don't think he necessarily has the best interest of the city at heart, as he has been sailing far too close to Tory principles for me here.

But the irony is, some Labour supporters are now very unhappy with Warren Morgan, and he's only been Labour leader on the council for a few days. Firstly, it's coming across badly that he published Twitter DMs, when protocol suggests these are supposed to be private. He was opportunistically hoping to score a point, and it's looking like it could well backfire. Secondly, he is supporting the pay cuts, rather than the trade unions on this issue (ironically agreeing with Jason Kitcat's stance). So of all people to get involved in this on Labour's behalf, he is just about the worst, and the GMB Union is tweeting that their members are 'furious' with him, citing 'betrayal'.

But you wouldn't get impartiality - nor the the whole story - from the Argus. They don't do that sort of thing.

I take Steve Bassam's view on this. The Green Party should sort out its own problems internally; Alex Philips was very naive.
 


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