[News] Average tank of fuel now over £100

[Neville's Breakfast]

2011 Brent crude at $133/barrel - petrol at £1.29/Ltr
2022 Brent crude at $123/barrel - petrol at £1.85/ltr. 56p more



Meanwhile, Shell and BP announce record quarterly profit.

The £ has fallen 10% in value against the $ this year, can’t for the life of me think why.

It’s not rocket science.

That is simply disgusting, how are they allowed to get away with that, has transportation of the oil gone up so much that is the reason ?

It’s not actually true though. The average price of Brent crude in 2011 was $111.26. I don’t know details on pump prices but I do know that the Brent market is competitive and not all supplies are this grade. You need to dig down into refinery capacity. I think there is also some sort of accumulation of the tax as the price rises.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

But I'm guessing if there was a fuel tanker strike tomorrow people would still be queuing around the block to fill up even at 2 quid a litre.

People will go without other necessities before they abandon their car

 

[Stat Brother]

The last time I bought petrol it was £1.63.

Thank god I still have half a tank left!

 

[HastingsSeagull]

Recently went over a quid a litre here in the city and people are going mental. Can find it cheaper in provinces though (just barely).

 

[usernamed]

But I'm guessing if there was a fuel tanker strike tomorrow people would still be queuing around the block to fill up even at 2 quid a litre.

People will go without other necessities before they abandon their car

There does have to be a viable alternative available. I think we would all like to see public transport be reliable, safe, frequent and cheaper than taking the car, but it is far from those things in many places, if available at all.

As others have noted above, we continue to allow the construction of estate after estate without any supporting infrastructure (schools, GP surgeries, local shops, public transport access) and thus make car ownership essential for anyone living there.

 

[zefarelly]

As a taxi driver it’s killing me
Yes I know I can and have increased prices twice already this year but I’m spending over a £1000 more on diesel for the same amount of work . Unnecessary or not for some of us it’s tough


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I bet it is, we got a few taxis to/fro WHU game, I didn't really notice at the time as it was a luxury day out, but double what I remember paying when I last regularly got cabs around BTN. as with so many things you have no choice but to pass it on, but you and many others will suffer.

I'm glad I gave my business up when I did, it would be 6 feet under by now anyway, expensive hobbies are not top of most people spending necessities right now. racing cars is ludicrously expensive at the best of times.

 

[zefarelly]

There does have to be a viable alternative available. I think we would all like to see public transport be reliable, safe, frequent and cheaper than taking the car, but it is far from those things in many places, if available at all.

As others have noted above, we continue to allow the construction of estate after estate without any supporting infrastructure (schools, GP surgeries, local shops, public transport access) and thus make car ownership essential for anyone living there.

'We' don't, a select minority do.

'We' do vote for them though

 

[BNthree]

Given the government want more to stop working at home and return to their offices you'd think they'd put a price cap on fuel. Given costs are sky high most are going to choose not to drive to work to save money.

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

There does have to be a viable alternative available. I think we would all like to see public transport be reliable, safe, frequent and cheaper than taking the car, but it is far from those things in many places, if available at all.

Agreed. There's a lot we could learn from other countries as well about integrated, subsidised public transport. As you say if it is cheap, safe and reliable people will use it. The UK is very London - centric so the investment always seems to go there like the new underground line but if you're out in the sticks you're on your own

 

[disgruntled h blocker]

I drove up the M3 to work yesterday and did find it fascinating that there might be a national outcry in regards to the cost of fuel but very few drivers on the road were driving any more conservatively to reflect this!

 

[Fungus]

Currently charging at 43p per kWh in a public car park, while eating our sarnies. Will take an hour, but cost about £20 for 200 miles range.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I drove up the M3 to work yesterday and did find it fascinating that there might be a national outcry in regards to the cost of fuel but very few drivers on the road were driving any more conservatively to reflect this!

Very good point. Isn’t 55 mph the most fuel efficient speed to drive at ? If people aren’t doing that then they really have nothing to complain about. I think 60 is the optimal speed for electric cars.

 

[Boroseagull]

inflation and cost of refinement have gone up, also $ is stronger (and price peaked about 126 in 2011, mostly $10-15 lower). it looks a lot but its similar across Europe.

Certainly is in Spain. Sheer coincidence, of course, that fuel prices rose 10c a litre last weekend coinciding with the Spanish Government's announcement that the 20c litre subsidy will be extended to the end of September. It was originally planned to end at the end of June but that coincided with regional elections and the start of the holiday season - a certain vote loser! Average price now for diesel is 2e a litre minus the subsidy deducted at the pump.

 

[maresfield seagull]

Good for the climate though. Demand destruction is what is needed.

May I respectfully ask Are you retired ? Have less use for a car than before ? Circumstances maybe changed for you in some way So this doe
sn't impact you so much ?

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

May I respectfully ask Are you retired ? Have less use for a car than before ? Circumstances maybe changed for you in some way So this doe
sn't impact you so much ?

Kind of, yes and yes. Don’t drive for health reasons. My wife does all the driving and the furthest we go is Manchester (an hour away) or North Wales ( hour to hour and a half) occasionally for days out. Lucky for my wallet but the point stands though. There are lots of threads on here about climate change but few/none that embrace the idea that it is only rationing by price that is going to actually change anything.

 

[Notters]

Currently charging at 43p per kWh in a public car park, while eating our sarnies. Will take an hour, but cost about £20 for 200 miles range.

That sounds only mildly cheaper than my old petrol 7-seater Toyota tbh. And I wouldn't have wanted to rely on it for the 9-hour drive to Devon last week (there was a queue from Birmingham to Exeter).

 

[jakarta]

In the next few weeks I have consecutive Site Days in Factories in Wisbech, Peterborough and Wellingborough, taking 4 Flight cases of Work Equipment plus all my PPE.

Any Tips on how Public Transport will sort this out for me?

 

[BLOCK F]

One or two high minded comments about petrol prices and the environment on here, but it has to be said that it is pretty grim for many businesses and the average Joe Bloggs and his family to have to suffer the huge petrol prices that we are are currently experiencing.

 

[nicko31]

Currently charging at 43p per kWh in a public car park, while eating our sarnies. Will take an hour, but cost about £20 for 200 miles range.

10p a mile isn't that cheap anymore, still half the price of derv...

 

[zefarelly]

Very good point. Isn’t 55 mph the most fuel efficient speed to drive at ? If people aren’t doing that then they really have nothing to complain about. I think 60 is the optimal speed for electric cars.

55-65 I think, certainly over 70 and most cars become less efficient, it is very vehicle specific.

as an example, a totally random one, Lambretta flat out 65-75 mph = 40-45 mpg

cruising 50-60mph 55-60 mpg

My old Cortina has a modified engine which is far more efficient than original and still does 30 mpg even cruising at 70-75.

Subaru is 5-7mpg better at 70 than 80+ and my license remains stain free!

with traffic congestion things get a lot lot worse . . . in every respect. .