[News] Average tank of fuel now over £100

[LamieRobertson]

Given the government want more to stop working at home and return to their offices you'd think they'd put a price cap on fuel. Given costs are sky high most are going to choose not to drive to work to save money.

Of course their is always the train ..oh strike out that idea

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Was thinking this earlier in the week whilst out walking the dog in the morning. Saw so many kids getting lifts to school when it's definitely walkable. Do kids not walk to school any more? I used love walking to and from school, it was the best bit of the day.

The trouble is there are people who genuinely need to use their cars to get about. Pre covid I had a 120 mile round trip a day to the office. I was filling up twice a week. If I was still doing that I would be seriously considering going fully electric now.

I filled up last Monday at 1.68, the following day it was 1.72. Last night when I went past it was 1.77. Mental increase in 9 days.

The 'paedo' hysteria triggered by some high profile 'stranger danger' abductions put pay to all that. A classic example of humans failing to risk assess (a well documented phenomenon). The number of times I used to see mums driving their kid to school while smoking a fag

Back on topic, I have a feeling that HMG is turning a blind eye to profiteering, and will pass the riches of the petrol companies off as a testament to their sure-footed handling of the economy

 

[Wozza]

https://twitter.com/brightonsnapper/status/1534916574276206599

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(I don't know why it's a video, btw - the price doesn't increase)

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Was thinking this earlier in the week whilst out walking the dog in the morning. Saw so many kids getting lifts to school when it's definitely walkable. Do kids not walk to school any more? I used love walking to and from school, it was the best bit of the day.

The trouble is there are people who genuinely need to use their cars to get about. Pre covid I had a 120 mile round trip a day to the office. I was filling up twice a week. If I was still doing that I would be seriously considering going fully electric now.

I filled up last Monday at 1.68, the following day it was 1.72. Last night when I went past it was 1.77. Mental increase in 9 days.

The 'paedo' hysteria triggered by some high profile 'stranger danger' abductions put pay to all that. A classic example of humans failing to risk assess (a well documented phenomenon). The number of times I used to see mums driving their kid to school while smoking a fag

Back on topic, I have a feeling that HMG is turning a blind eye to profiteering, and will pass the riches of the petrol companies off as a testament to their sure-footed handling of the economy

TBF it probably depends upon the area. Around here most still walk or get the bus or train. In more rural areas large comprehensive schools are often not walkable from surrounding villages. By contrast in lots of affluent areas down south Mummy’s Range Rover is probably preferable.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

One or two high minded comments about petrol prices and the environment on here, but it has to be said that it is pretty grim for many businesses and the average Joe Bloggs and his family to have to suffer the huge petrol prices that we are are currently experiencing.

Sorry to raise the corpse of Thatcher again but....she hated public transport, especially nationalised public transport, and succeeded in destroying much of it. Now we are all slaves to our cars.

My mum used to do a twice-weekly shop down Boundary Road and get the 11 bus home with the shopping in a big bag. Anyone doing that these days would be regarded as eccentric.

Edit: they wouldn't be able to do it - the 11 bus is no more. https://www.buses.co.uk/services

 

[Icy Gull]

Sorry to raise the corpse of Thatcher again but....she hated public transport, especially nationalised public transport, and succeeded in destroying much of it. Now we are all slaves to our cars. l]

Dead nearly 10 years and out of power for 32 years and still responsible for so much misery today

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Dead nearly 10 years and out of power for 32 years and still responsible for so much misery today

Fact!

But she did free us from the unions and debilitating strikes......oh.

https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-strike

But think about how affordable housing is now.....er..



(I'll your coat )

 

[portlock seagull]

Was thinking this earlier in the week whilst out walking the dog in the morning. Saw so many kids getting lifts to school when it's definitely walkable. Do kids not walk to school any more? I used love walking to and from school, it was the best bit of the day.

The trouble is there are people who genuinely need to use their cars to get about. Pre covid I had a 120 mile round trip a day to the office. I was filling up twice a week. If I was still doing that I would be seriously considering going fully electric now.

I filled up last Monday at 1.68, the following day it was 1.72. Last night when I went past it was 1.77. Mental increase in 9 days.

Those types aren’t affected and probably won’t ever be. Hard pressed families, their kids already use buses and always have. Huge mass of other mums moaning about petrol but they are nearly all driving huge suvs, brand new or nearly, typically range rovers. Hundreds and hundreds of people have these now round our way and they ain’t dropping off at private schools either. Discoveries etc are way more common than Fords etc. So my thinking is, if you can afford to taxi young jade or jackson around in a £60-100k car then you really can afford to fill it up. And should probably just shut up about doing so!

 

[beorhthelm]

Sorry to raise the corpse of Thatcher again but....she hated public transport, especially nationalised public transport, and succeeded in destroying much of it. Now we are all slaves to our cars.

thats not true though. hated nationalised, subsidised transport. so bus and coach transport was sold off, and flourished at first. then in the later 80's and 90's it became more affordable to run a 2nd or 3rd car in the family around town, and they were more reliable for longer trips, people stopped using the coaches. leaving uneconomical services that local councils then had to subsidise more for those that couldnt afford cars. the problem is public services that scale up, dont scale down very well. buses work well in London or Brighton, dont work in smaller towns or the backwaters of the county.

 

[Icy Gull]

Fact!

But she did free us from the unions and debilitating strikes......oh.

https://tfl.gov.uk/campaign/tube-strike

But think about how affordable housing is now.....er..

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(I'll your coat )

So prices stayed steady for 5 years after she left office and you are blaming her for what has happened since 1996. Just her, nothing and nobody else? Blimey

Did you piss on her grave when she died by any chance??

 

[1066familyman]

I drove up the M3 to work yesterday and did find it fascinating that there might be a national outcry in regards to the cost of fuel but very few drivers on the road were driving any more conservatively to reflect this!

I bet loads of the cars only had one person in them too.

 

[A1X]

I’m old enough to remember when all this was “Project Fear”

 

[portlock seagull]

I’m old enough to remember when all this was “Project Fear”

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

thats not true though. hated nationalised, subsidised transport. so bus and coach transport was sold off, and flourished at first. then in the later 80's and 90's it became more affordable to run a 2nd or 3rd car in the family around town, and they were more reliable for longer trips, people stopped using the coaches. leaving uneconomical services that local councils then had to subsidise more for those that couldnt afford cars. the problem is public services that scale up, dont scale down very well. buses work well in London or Brighton, dont work in smaller towns or the backwaters of the county.

Yes, but it is true, though

Thatcher hated public transport
She flogged a lot of it off to one bloke (tory donor)
Major flogged off the railways in an election bribe (shares! shares!) that failed.
My run from Faversham to London turned from a quaint slam door reliable service to a slower, uncomfortable shit smelling (the bogs are literally shite) mess.
The eleven bus to Mill House is no more
Hardly anyone ever commuted by coach and coaches were never a major part of the public transport infrastructure.

And my point was that people are now shitting themselves because of petrol price increases in part because the old nationalized public transport is gone. Surely you don't think that is wrong? FFS, in the late 50s and early 60s, when we lived in Rottingdean, my dad took the bus to work - in Brighton.

I accept that in rural areas public transport has to be subsidized. But I'm, apparently, a 'socialist', so I'm happy with that.

Apart from that, spot on!

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

I’m old enough to remember when all this was “Project Fear”

All this what ?
Are you actually blaming global 2022 energy prices on the UK leaving the EU ?

 

[Icy Gull]

Yes, but it is true, though

Thatcher hated public transport
She flogged a lot of it off to one bloke (tory donor)
Major flogged off the railways in an election bribe (shares! shares!) that failed.
My run from Faversham to London turned from a quaint slam door reliable service to a slower, uncomfortable shit smelling (the bogs are literally shite) mess.
The eleven bus to Mill House is no more
Hardly anyone ever commuted by coach and coaches were never a major part of the public transport infrastructure.

And my point was that people are now shitting themselves because of petrol price increases in part because the old nationalized public transport is gone. Surely you don't think that is wrong? FFS, in the late 50s and early 60s, when we lived in Rottingdean, my dad took the bus to work - in Brighton.

I accept that in rural areas public transport has to be subsidized. But I'm, apparently, a 'socialist', so I'm happy with that.

Apart from that, spot on!

I haven’t a clue about public transport but I am staggered by how many 700 buses run between Portsmouth and Worthing, most almost empty by the time they arrive and leave Ferring.

One runs every 10 mins apparently and they often end up following each other. Are we blaming that on Thatcher too?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

There does have to be a viable alternative available. I think we would all like to see public transport be reliable, safe, frequent and cheaper than taking the car, but it is far from those things in many places, if available at all.

But the minute you propose, say, a tram service everyone is up in arms as it will take away car lanes. Brits don’t like paying taxes either so even if there was a government keen to implement something you won’t have the money to do it. Nothing will change.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

But the minute you propose, say, a tram service everyone is up in arms as it will take away car lanes. Brits don’t like paying taxes either so even if there was a government keen to implement something you won’t have the money to do it. Nothing will change.

Easy to mock from far away but here is a local (to me) project that shows the opposite;

https://wirralview.com/news/bus-rapid-transit-system-proposal-wirral-waters

 

[portlock seagull]

But the minute you propose, say, a tram service everyone is up in arms as it will take away car lanes. Brits don’t like paying taxes either so even if there was a government keen to implement something you won’t have the money to do it. Nothing will change.

So true. I’d further add the costs would also be astronomical (that’s a great word isn’t it, note to self to use more often!) because we are so shite at project managing, everything comes in late and 100 times over budget. Channel tunnel, Millennium Dome, Wembley, Olympics, Cross Rail, anything to do with NHS, Smart motorways, HS2…

 

[A1X]

All this what ?
Are you actually blaming global 2022 energy prices on the UK leaving the EU ?

Are you saying the value of the pound when buying for the British market from global wholesale markets is irrelevant?