[Albion] Attwell

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Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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I totally understand why people resort to conspiratorial thinking like this, but I think this is a situation where Occam's Razor comes in useful. Plenty of other clubs have complaints about Attwell, and I'm betting we're not the only board with a thread about him.

He's just really, really bad at this and shouldn't be reffing at this level for that reason.
Yeah this.

but that Spurs game was a different level of incompetence.
 






Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
12,121
I'd add that I have now watched the red card incident back. The foul on Pedro just prior should have been a yellow, Baleba's foul definitely shouldn't so two decisions within 30 seconds. Surprise surprise Attwell went against Brighton on both. Funny how often that happens with him 🤔
In fairness to him, in that Spurs game, he (correctly) gave the Welbeck goal, which VAR (incorrectly) ruled out for an assumed handball by MacAllister.
 








Dancin Ninja BHA

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Jul 6, 2003
2,260
I'd add that I have now watched the red card incident back. The foul on Pedro just prior should have been a yellow, Baleba's foul definitely shouldn't so two decisions within 30 seconds. Surprise surprise Attwell went against Brighton on both. Funny how often that happens with him 🤔
Controversial opinion I know from me, but I'm not even sure it's really a foul, let alone a yellow.

Pedro does his usual 'make a meal of a challenge' (to be fair most/all players do these days) and the ref waves play on. Admittedly I've only seen the incident once on Match of the Day and I can't be bothered to watch it back to confirm or deny (!) but on first viewing it looked to me that it wasn't really a foul, Pedro made a meal.
 








Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
30,463
Hove
Controversial opinion I know from me, but I'm not even sure it's really a foul, let alone a yellow.

Pedro does his usual 'make a meal of a challenge' (to be fair most/all players do these days) and the ref waves play on. Admittedly I've only seen the incident once on Match of the Day and I can't be bothered to watch it back to confirm or deny (!) but on first viewing it looked to me that it wasn't really a foul, Pedro made a meal.
Pedro’s antics border on embarrassing to be honest. He’s not going to get some decisions because of so much play acting.

As for Baleba, I didn’t think it was a foul either.
 


Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
4,609
Brighton
Controversial opinion I know from me, but I'm not even sure it's really a foul, let alone a yellow.

Pedro does his usual 'make a meal of a challenge' (to be fair most/all players do these days) and the ref waves play on. Admittedly I've only seen the incident once on Match of the Day and I can't be bothered to watch it back to confirm or deny (!) but on first viewing it looked to me that it wasn't really a foul, Pedro made a meal.
I see your point and it can be argued either way - the issue for me being, yet again, two contentious decisions in 30 seconds and, who'd have thunk it, Attwell comes down against us in both. Taken in isolation, it's just a decision which goes against us which happens, taken in context of this and other games it becomes a pattern.
 


HeaviestTed

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Mar 23, 2023
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So, again, I sympathise with the ref and go into my bunker. It's clearly the wrong decision and could have had an impact on the match. But, like it or not, these things happen and will always happen.
Great attitude - people make mistakes, luckily we still won so no real damage done and our next game is Southampton (not city who we needed baleba for )
 






Dancin Ninja BHA

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Jul 6, 2003
2,260
I see your point and it can be argued either way - the issue for me being, yet again, two contentious decisions in 30 seconds and, who'd have thunk it, Attwell comes down against us in both. Taken in isolation, it's just a decision which goes against us which happens, taken in context of this and other games it becomes a pattern.
Fair enough - sadly every team (well maybe not Citeh) have refs that their fans think are against them. It used to be Kevin f**king Friend for me, now Atwell after Spurs. Joke refs sadly
 


happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,171
Eastbourne
No. The nearby fans and players didn’t react. Cut the sound of the drama queen commentator and it was a nothing coming together.

The ref made the amateurish blunder of reacting to a player writhing in pain. Rather than instead seeing what actually happened. If in any doubt, don’t act.

Radio Sussex felt the fourth official was behind the error.
Or, and bear with me here, he could have given a straight red which VAR would have asked him to look at and would be appealable if he still thought it a foul.
 




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