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Attendance today at Cardiff City



the albion has had the summer to sell tickets for the first ame of this season and they got 6500 for yesterdays game. What have they been doing.. or more importantly what have they not been doing? The "wait until falmer" message is lazy.
What have they been doing? They've achieved a 27 per cent increase in attendance, compared with the first game two years ago.

This issue is discussed here:-

todays crowd - North Stand Chat
 




Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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First league game in their new 26,500 capacity stadium. 22,264 people turn up to watch the game against Scunny.

Cardiff has a population of 321,000 and a big surrounding area. Brighton & Hove has a population of 247,800 and a big surrounding area.

I predict a crowd of 18,500 for the first game at Falmer.
Another non story from lord B. Cardiff have virtually sold out. Away allocation will have kept this down. I am sure because it's Cardiff there will be a good gap between the Scunnie fans and home fans which will also account for some.

The first game at Falmer will definitely sell out. After that it will be somewhere between 10k-20k depending on whether we are winning or a losing team.
 




seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
43,946
Crap Town
Albion v Ebbsfleet in the Blue Sq Premier on the first Saturday in August 2011 will SURELY have a capacity crowd :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Surely Ebbsfleet will be in L2 for the 2011/12 season :blush:
 


Notters

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Oct 20, 2003
24,895
Guiseley
Cardiff is a bloody silly place to build one of these grounds where it is effectively all one stand. If they play Leeds they'll have to cover about 15000 seats for segregation (spot the slight exageration).
 




Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
11,033
The attendance at the first game is almost totally irrelevant anyway.

See what the Falmer crowd is in the November on a Tuesday night, and then you'll know exactly the potential, and/or the scale of the challenge ahead to pack it out.
 


Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,349
Brighton factually.....
Unfortunately i think the main differance between ourselves and the likes of Cardiff is the fact that we may well sell out our first game at The Whatever (falmer) Stadium......But thanks to the drawn out feck up thanks too Archer,Prescott etc etc......We have i fear lost a lot of fans and it will take a long time to get them back. To think we will turn out at the Whatever Stadium and play in front of a full or close to full crowd week in week out is to say the least blind faith stupidity. Thanks to Archer etc it will take years to get them back, unless we sign big and make a statement about our intentions,but then you run the risk of over spending just to attract crowds and players....its a spiral we probably have to join, Ignore me im just seeing the negative....

sorry chaps
 


Husty

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Oct 18, 2008
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I think we will sell out. The name Falmer has been brandished around for some years. I think alot of football fans in the area will try and get tickets for the first league game. Not just Brighton fans.

I Predict - Sell Out

Yeh this basically, i work with a few football fans who support arsenal and leeds, both are planning on going to the first game at falmer and the arsenal fan said he might even get a season ticket
 




Mackenzie

Old Brightonian
Nov 7, 2003
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East Wales
First league game in their new 26,500 capacity stadium. 22,264 people turn up to watch the game against Scunny.

Cardiff has a population of 321,000 and a big surrounding area. Brighton & Hove has a population of 247,800 and a big surrounding area.

I predict a crowd of 18,500 for the first game at Falmer.
Some of the Cardiff supporting lads in our village didn't go because 'It's not as good as it was at Ninnian'......I can't work it out either, probably a Welsh thing.
 


My Name Is Gully

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May 9, 2008
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Dorset
Regarding the opening BHA game obviously we will have to wait and see, it is all speculation/opinion all said and done, but I am optimistic (going from my own personal experience) that the new ground and the opening game in the new ground will bring more of us (me included) historical supporters crawling back to be part of this momentous occassion. I expect a home crowd sell out going by my own excitement.

(P.S. What am I called if I do not attend games but watch for the results, read about BHA in the papers/net/media etc and have done for some time - can I call myself a supporter - a follower - a fan - are these terms appropriate or are there other more contructive terms to use as I am never sure?)
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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Although I'd expect a close to sell out crowd for the 1st game at Falmer, I think we will follow Reading's route of gradually increasing crowds over about 7 or 8 seasons as long as we have a reasonable side up near the top of whatever division we are in most of the time. Hurts me to say it but Reading have to be the role model and we'll do well to build our fanbase as well as they have built theirs from the approx 5k they got in an average season at Elm Park.
 




Jul 5, 2003
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Cardiff
I will be shocked if the first game at Falmer is not a sell-out.

People said much the same when plans were being drawn up for our new stadium. However, it's not as simple as that.

The fact is that Scunny was the fifth game at Cardiff's new stadium.

Due to the health and safety requirements, new stadiums usually have a number of what they describe as 'ramp-up events'. In Cardiff's case, the routine was as follows:

1) Cardiff City 'Legends' game (two teams of former City players on a Saturday afternoon, crowd of around 5,000)

2) Cardiff City v Chasetown (first friendly on a Friday night, crowd of around 6,000)

3) Cardiff City v Celtic (official opening ceremony on a Wednesday night, crowd of around 16,000)

4) Cardiff City v Valencia (friendly on a Saturday afternoon, crowd of around 14,000)

These games were all played within the space of a few weeks. By the time the first league game came around, the majority of our support had already been to the new stadium at least once.

The attendance of 22,264 for the opening league game was our biggest since 1971, so the new stadium had a big impact. However, other factors such as the current economic situation, the team's dismal end to the 2008/09 season, the opposition, problems with the new ticketing system, the holiday period, poor ticket sales in the corporate areas, etc etc, meant a sell-out was never likely.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,955
Surrey
In these economic conditions, I'd have thought 22,300 in a 26,000 stadium was acceptable anyway.

I remember Hull opened their 24,500 ground (admittedly in division 4) to a crowd of 22,300.

I do think we'll sell out though - firstly, our ground capacity will be smaller than both of those two grounds. Secondly, our support is probably more fickle than most. i.e. We FLOCK to see Albion when we're on the up, and desert them in DROVES when the feel-good factor is no longer around.

Don't forget, there were 27,000 ticket applications for that first game back at Withdean in division 4, so filling a brand new 22,500 will present no problem, unless there is negativity surrounding the club, such as if we've just been relegated to division 4.
 




The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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People said much the same when plans were being drawn up for our new stadium. However, it's not as simple as that.

The fact is that Scunny was the fifth game at Cardiff's new stadium.

Due to the health and safety requirements, new stadiums usually have a number of what they describe as 'ramp-up events'. In Cardiff's case, the routine was as follows:

1) Cardiff City 'Legends' game (two teams of former City players on a Saturday afternoon, crowd of around 5,000)

2) Cardiff City v Chasetown (first friendly on a Friday night, crowd of around 6,000)

3) Cardiff City v Celtic (official opening ceremony on a Wednesday night, crowd of around 16,000)

4) Cardiff City v Valencia (friendly on a Saturday afternoon, crowd of around 14,000)

These games were all played within the space of a few weeks. By the time the first league game came around, the majority of our support had already been to the new stadium at least once.

The attendance of 22,264 for the opening league game was our biggest since 1971, so the new stadium had a big impact. However, other factors such as the current economic situation, the team's dismal end to the 2008/09 season, the opposition, problems with the new ticketing system, the holiday period, poor ticket sales in the corporate areas, etc etc, meant a sell-out was never likely.

Fair points all.

BTW, have you met Natterjack?
 




Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
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Burgess Hill
I suspect Falmer will be a sell out for the first match at least. We have more than our fair share of fair-weather supporters, plus a lot of fans who simply can't stomach Withdean.

The bigger question, for me, is how long can we maintain a decent attedance, of say, 12k+ ?
 


Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
6,868
Burgess Hill
First league game in their new 26,500 capacity stadium. 22,264 people turn up to watch the game against Scunny.

Cardiff has a population of 321,000 and a big surrounding area. Brighton & Hove has a population of 247,800 and a big surrounding area.

I predict a crowd of 18,500 for the first game at Falmer.



You just know that Lord B will bookmark this thread, so that he can gloat when 18,501 people attend the first match!
 




The Large One

Who's Next?
Jul 7, 2003
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The difference between Cardiff's situation and ours was in the issue of necessity.

Cardiff had Ninian Park, and were not in imminent danger of going out of business on the back of not moving from there. Brighton's case is a wee bit different. If nothing else, we've all spent the past 13 years protesting regarding our 'homelessness', and eight years trying to do something about it.

The desire for a new ground has, I would venture, been that much stronger here than just about anywhere else.
 


More to the point, have you chased Atilla for your money?

:laugh:

I'm sure Cardiff's 'LegoLand' stadium is superb. If you like see through corrugated plastic with that 'just built, but not finished' look - this is the stadium for you.

As for crowds, every new stadium will bring more people in, it's whether they can be kept there is the important bit. Thats where the team have to do their bit.

IMHO, Brighton have a huge fan-base that only need awakening with a decent run of results when you move.
 


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