[Politics] Assisted dying

[DavidinSouthampton]

I know that. They do wonderful work. Many would like the option tho of opting out while they still resemble the person their loved ones loved

And there are still instances where people die in excruciating pain despite palliative care efforts. They talked to a man who couldn’t pluck up the courage to put a pillow over his wife’s face on the news this week to end her suffering - pluck up the courage to is a poor choice of words, I can’t remember exactly what he said, but those looking on suffer too, poor bloke.

 

[drew]

Disabled Person: Hello there, British State. I'm disabled and need some support, with which I could live a dignified and fulfilling life.
British State: Hi there Disabled Person. Sorry, we don't have the budget to offer you the support you need for a dignified and fulfilling life. Can we interest you in a dignified death instead?

This is a dark day.

Many don't share that distorted impression of giving people with a terminal diagnosis of 6 months a choice. There is no reference to just being disabled.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Part of the bill states that if the checks are not in place, it will go ahead in 2 years' time regardless.

The checks can't be in place by then, if ever. How are two doctors going to get to know the person concerned, and his or her family, well enough to assess whether the person has been coerced? It's supposed to be done within three weeks. The most we can hope for as the doctor's own patient is to get a telephone appointment within three weeks; how is a stranger going to get such a lengthy series of consultations?

I believe this will get changed at somepoint, some amendments will be put In.

I also believe we will see some push back from doctors in the near future as they are the ones making the calls and some are very unhappy with this, especially over the idea they are going to be in the position to having to suggest it

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I believe this will get changed at somepoint, some amendments will be put In.

I also believe we will see some push back from doctors in the near future as they are the ones making the calls and some are very unhappy with this, especially over the idea they are going to be in the position to having to suggest it

I have read posts from doctors who aren’t happy about being asked, stating it goes against the Hippocratic Oath.

 

[dsr-burnley]

I believe this will get changed at somepoint, some amendments will be put In.

I also believe we will see some push back from doctors in the near future as they are the ones making the calls and some are very unhappy with this, especially over the idea they are going to be in the position to having to suggest it

On the other hand, I dare say there will be other doctors (private ones) who will specialise in assisted dying, and who will (for a fee) make all the necessary certifications.

 

[alanfp]

I have read posts from doctors who aren’t happy about being asked, stating it goes against the Hippocratic Oath.

I get that. Under the terms of the bill they will have the option to decline to co-operate.

 

[heathgate]

I have just sat bedside with my Father in Law in Worthing, for the best part of 5 months May until Oct... he had extended Cancer originating with Prostate, eventually spreading to his bones in his groin and spine.

He was sent home from hospital in May with prognosis of "weeks rather than months"...... we had fantastic support from the hospice teams right to the end, which was 5 Oct...

However, his pain relief and personal care regime did nothing other than preserve him in his bed, most of the time in a medicated sleep state,.. for 5 months. In his rare lucid times, he repeatedly said that you wouldn't let a dog 'live' like this.....

So yes, from recent, real life experience, ... I wholeheartedly support this bill.

 

[fly high]

I believe this will get changed at somepoint, some amendments will be put In.

I also believe we will see some push back from doctors in the near future as they are the ones making the calls and some are very unhappy with this, especially over the idea they are going to be in the position to having to suggest it

Think there are MPs who voted for the bill but want to change the part which says someone from the medical profession can suggest it to a patient. I agree with them, must be changed.

 

[Washie]

I have just sat bedside with my Father in Law in Worthing, for the best part of 5 months May until Oct... he had extended Cancer originating with Prostate, eventually spreading to his bones in his groin and spine.

He was sent home from hospital in May with prognosis of "weeks rather than months"...... we had fantastic support from the hospice teams right to the end, which was 5 Oct...

However, his pain relief and personal care regime did nothing other than preserve him in his bed, most of the time in a medicated sleep state,.. for 5 months. In his rare lucid times, he repeatedly said that you wouldn't let a dog 'live' like this.....

So yes, from recent, real life experience, ... I wholeheartedly support this bill.

This, they prolong the life, but what life are they really prolonging? Can't do any of the things they enjoy doing, can barely comprehend loved ones. Sounds like a fate worse than death.

 

[dazzer6666]

This, they prolong the life, but what life are they really prolonging? Can't do any of the things they enjoy doing, can barely comprehend loved ones. Sounds like a fate worse than death.

It’s inhumane.