[Politics] Assisted dying

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Vote is on Friday.

Hugely difficult and emotive subject.

Thoughts?

 

[chip]

Not really a matter for MPs, doctors or judges. It should be entirely a personal choice.

 

[jackalbion]

For me I'm very torn on it. I think if you're life is truly unliveable then I think you should have a choice, but I think the pressure associated with Mental Health, may lead to some to think they are a burden, I don't think those pressures, should even be a part of the equation. Ultimately its down to personal choice and I'd respect any MPs decision on this, and a personal view.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

For me I'm very torn on it. I think if you're life is truly unliveable then I think you should have a choice, but I think the pressure associated with Mental Health, may lead to some to think they are a burden, I don't think those pressures, should even be a part of the equation. Ultimately its down to personal choice and I'd respect any MPs decision on this, and a personal view.

Agree, I've very torn too.

 

[jackalbion]

Agree, I've very torn too.

While I've never been a huge fan of Starmer, I respect him allowing a free vote, I expect the results will vary on all sides of Parliament from every party.

 

[Seagull58]

I'd like to propose Stuart Attwell. I'd be happy to assist.

 

[Seecider]

For some the measure of a civilised society is in what it does to protect the most vulnerable. If we have no respect for the unborn child, why would we protect the frail elderly who need love and care, the dying who need palliative care or he mentally ill who need help ?

 

[Seagull58]

For some the measure of a civilised society is in what it does to protect the most vulnerable. If we have no respect for the unborn child, why would we protect the frail elderly who need love and care, the dying who need palliative care or he mentally ill who need help ?

Who has no respect for the unborn child? Antenatal care and support is good in the UK, is it not?

 

[amexer]

Very difficult subject. But I certainly would not want to be around if i couldnt deal with my personal needs or able to recognise anyone.
Agree not so easy to deal with when just mental issues

 

[The Brighton Ace]

For some the measure of a civilised society is in what it does to protect the most vulnerable. If we have no respect for the unborn child, why would we protect the frail elderly who need love and care, the dying who need palliative care or he mentally ill who need help ?

No respect for the unborn child? Please do enlighten us.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Not really a matter for MPs, doctors or judges. It should be entirely a personal choice.

There has to be a law, one way or the other - and like it or not, tthe law is decided by MPs.

While I've never been a huge fan of Starmer, I respect him allowing a free vote, I expect the results will vary on all sides of Parliament from every party.

Absolutley, but I don't think you couldn't force an MP to vote one way or the other on this.

 

[KZNSeagull]

The bill in Parliament is only for those people with a terminal illness and less that 6 month to live.

 

[ROSM]

For many years I have been far more in favour than against.

However this debate (which I must say has been handled well by those on both sides - with mature, calm and well reasoned arguments) has given me doubts especially around the costs of this approach and impacts on the doctors who will be required to give approvals.

I think on balance I am still in favour BUT the debate has caused me to consider alternative views and positions and challenge myself

And that is what good debate should do

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Absolutely yes

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The bill in Parliament is only for those people with a terminal illness and less that 6 month to live.

It appears that way, at the moment, but exceptions start being made, and then it broadens, as it did in Canada. I can visualise an elderly person, with their own home, ‘being persuaded‘, once diagnosed with dementia. No law is watertight.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Who has no respect for the unborn child? Antenatal care and support is good in the UK, is it not?

Antenatal is post birth. There are unnecessary abortions, like it or not. It’s a whole different discussion.

 

[loz]

I don’t know but when nearing the end don’t some medical staff quicken the end by upping some pain meds to help the patients pass peacefully and quickly ?

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It's generally considered cruel not to put a suffering animal out of its pain. Why should a suffering human being have to endure evil levels of pain with no legal means of putting an end to it?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

I don’t know but when nearing the end don’t some medical staff quicken the end by upping some pain meds to help the patients pass peacefully and quickly ?

That is accepted medical practice as is withdrawing treatment. My ex father in law was dying of leukaemia, when he developed pneumonia. The GP came to the house, spoke to the family and said, ‘You do know, I won’t be prescribing antibiotics‘?
Everyone was ok with that, and he passed peacefully the next day.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It's generally considered cruel not to put a suffering animal out of its pain. Why should a suffering human being have to endure evil levels of pain with no legal means of putting an end to it?

Palliative care ensures nobody would die in agony from illness. This is why we have hospices.