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Ashley Barnes - what would you have done?

What would you do with a problem like Ashley?

  • "Do a Murray" - let the contract run out, leaving him free to walk away

    Votes: 16 5.9%
  • Sold him to the highest bidder now-ish, cash in whilst you can

    Votes: 234 86.7%
  • Keep offering him higher wages until he stayed, aka "Do a Pompey"

    Votes: 20 7.4%

  • Total voters
    270


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
I see Oscar has 'urged' the scouting network to find him a replacement this window. Did we really sell him, with no replacement in mind ?

I must admit, I would expect the club to already have a good idea of targets to replace the mighty Ash. I therefore found that Oscar comment a bit worrying. Joe Mason, maybe?
 




c0lz

North East Stand.
Jan 26, 2010
2,203
Patcham/Brighton
By most accounts, fees in the January window are inflated, which would mean it would be cheaper to find a replacement for him in the summer. I don't know if the difference is as much as £750k, I suppose it depends on the value (i.e. 0.5m to 1.25m is a bigger jump proportionally than 3m-3.75m).

We also could have picked up someone else who was out of contract for nothing in the summer rather than paying for someone in the last few months of their contract now (and not having enough in the budget to get the out of contract player in the summer). Swings and roundabouts, indeed.

Then going by your argument it would make even more sense to sell now and buy in the summer, plus it still could happen the window has not closed yet.
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
By most accounts, fees in the January window are inflated, which would mean it would be cheaper to find a replacement for him in the summer. I don't know if the difference is as much as £750k, I suppose it depends on the value (i.e. 0.5m to 1.25m is a bigger jump proportionally than 3m-3.75m).

We also could have picked up someone else who was out of contract for nothing in the summer rather than paying for someone in the last few months of their contract now (and not having enough in the budget to get the out of contract player in the summer). Swings and roundabouts, indeed.

Nonsense. We did well to get more than £750k for a player out of contract in 6 months time, and probably not worth more than £1.5M if he had 18 months left on his contract (good, not great Championship striker). This money to be put towards a replacement, as opposed to £0 in 6 months time. You do know that more than £750k is greater than zero, don't you?
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
Yeah, rushing to conclusions when you don't know much about anything is so brave. You are my hero.

You're mine Acker79. You bring me so much laughter with your posts.
 


Acker79

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
31,921
Brighton
Then going by your argument it would make even more sense to sell now and buy in the summer, plus it still could happen the window has not closed yet.

Only if your only concern is money now, rather than on field success leading to more money in the future. It's a complex decision with so many possible outcomes. We could keep barnes, have his contribution play a part in getting promoted, we then withdraw an offer for him as we can sign a free agent from the premier league. The 750k we swallow on barnes is rewarded with the money from promotion, and his replacement was free so it's a wash.
 




B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
Only if your only concern is money now, rather than on field success leading to more money in the future.

Do you think the Albion will spend in this window to replace Barnes, or at least make every effort to do so?
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
Only if your only concern is money now, rather than on field success leading to more money in the future. It's a complex decision with so many possible outcomes. We could keep barnes, have his contribution play a part in getting promoted, we then withdraw an offer for him as we can sign a free agent from the premier league. The 750k we swallow on barnes is rewarded with the money from promotion, and his replacement was free so it's a wash.

OR we could spend the £750k (or whatever we need to spend) on a replacement, who scores the goals that take us up. See, I can play the scenario game too. [Meanwhile, Barnes does nothing at Burnley. Another not impossible scenario, especially if they retain Ings.]
 


c0lz

North East Stand.
Jan 26, 2010
2,203
Patcham/Brighton
Only if your only concern is money now, rather than on field success leading to more money in the future. It's a complex decision with so many possible outcomes. We could keep barnes, have his contribution play a part in getting promoted, we then withdraw an offer for him as we can sign a free agent from the premier league. The 750k we swallow on barnes is rewarded with the money from promotion, and his replacement was free so it's a wash.

But we wont know till the end of the season and what the club do now, but will be interesting to see how Brighton and Burnley do from now on.
 




Brightonfan1983

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
4,863
UK
I've said 3, because we should have offered him a better contract and tried to keep hold of him. However, not to the point that his wages become ridiculous like what Pompey did.

Maybe we did offer him a better contract, but just not as much as Burnley. It's the "internal valuation" in an auction - you have to stick to your guns.
 


Barnham Seagull

Yapton Actually
Dec 28, 2005
2,353
Yapton
Difficult to say as we do not know what our offer was like or what Burnley were offering.

It could be that they were offering big money or just that our offer was poo in terms of wage and length and Burnley's was just better.
 






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