Ashley Barnes, The Latest: Ashley Barnes Signs for Burnley *Confirmation*

[Scoffers]

Good day - Burnley fan here in peace - well sort of.

One or two fairly ignorant comments about the club, town and it's people - which surprised me a bit. I used to work with a BHA fan many moons ago (if you are reading Charles, hope you are well ) and he was a real, genuine football fan - in common with most of the BHA fans I've met over the years. I can only assume a new breed have been attracted by that fabulous and bright & shiny new stadium. That said I love some of the stuff they do at your gaff - fan comfort seems to be a central philosophy which is hardly the norm at this level.

Anyway, on to why he might have signed for us. Instinct tells me it is all down to the manager. He's wanted him at least since summer and I suspect he was able to win over Barnes. What I've read of him (Barnes) and the little I've seen he is a player very much in the mould Dyche looks for, works hard, presses high up the pitch, reasonable amount of talent and knows where the goal is even if not prolific. I also imagine the contract on offer at Brighton for whatever reason wasn't as appealing, be it money, duration or both. I doubt the level of football would be a factor, with your greater resources I'd have thought over a 5 year time line you'd have far more chance of making it to the PL than Burnley.

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

Hiya,

Please ignore the obvious trolls most of which have probably never set foot in Burnley outside of going to football matches. My best man is a Burnley fan and I've been to Turf Moor to watch them play a couple of times (not just when Brighton are there) and I've met a lot of my best mans family and what struck me was the real passion they had for the club (oh and their hatred for '******* Rovers' !!). Burnley might be a small-ish town but the local support seems to reach the entire family, not just one or two and they really live and breath the club. As a comparison I have quite a large family and I am the only one who goes to watch live football regularly (except the old man now and again) and I've just started taking my three boys who seem to be warming to the idea!

To your point about Barnes fitting in, I think you are spot on. Barnes took a lot of stick for the chances he missed and his occasional flash of madness that got him sent off, but he is excellent at helping to build up the play and make things happen for others. I truly believe that with the right setup and tactics he could be a huge asset for Burnley and I wish him and Burnley all the very best for this season. It would be fantastic to see a founder-member club get back in to the top flight once again.

Cheers
Mark

 

[Horton's halftime iceberg]

Anyway, on to why he might have signed for us. Instinct tells me it is all down to the manager. He's wanted him at least since summer and I suspect he was able to win over Barnes. What I've read of him (Barnes) and the little I've seen he is a player very much in the mould Dyche looks for, works hard, presses high up the pitch, reasonable amount of talent and knows where the goal is even if not prolific. I also imagine the contract on offer at Brighton for whatever reason wasn't as appealing, be it money, duration or both. I doubt the level of football would be a factor, with your greater resources I'd have thought over a 5 year time line you'd have far more chance of making it to the PL than Burnley.

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

He is young, its his first big pay day, will do all the above for Dyche, work hard, score some goals, probably the only down side is the red mist and the red cards that follow. I wish him well and would rather he stayed with us but thats football these days he all get more out of the deal with you that staying on our current wage structure.

Will be a good asset for a promotion push

 

[Loadicus Trux]

Good day - Burnley fan here in peace - well sort of.

One or two fairly ignorant comments about the club, town and it's people - which surprised me a bit. I used to work with a BHA fan many moons ago (if you are reading Charles, hope you are well ) and he was a real, genuine football fan - in common with most of the BHA fans I've met over the years. I can only assume a new breed have been attracted by that fabulous and bright & shiny new stadium. That said I love some of the stuff they do at your gaff - fan comfort seems to be a central philosophy which is hardly the norm at this level.

Anyway, on to why he might have signed for us. Instinct tells me it is all down to the manager. He's wanted him at least since summer and I suspect he was able to win over Barnes. What I've read of him (Barnes) and the little I've seen he is a player very much in the mould Dyche looks for, works hard, presses high up the pitch, reasonable amount of talent and knows where the goal is even if not prolific. I also imagine the contract on offer at Brighton for whatever reason wasn't as appealing, be it money, duration or both. I doubt the level of football would be a factor, with your greater resources I'd have thought over a 5 year time line you'd have far more chance of making it to the PL than Burnley.

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

I know it's not nice to come on a board like this and read derogitary comments regarding your town and club. I find it bewildering that ordinary fans make comments like "why would he want to go there?" It's a shit hole etc. As if the players give a toss. They are all well paid young men who probably settle miles away from the club and town centre. I also feel you are being a tad naiive if you are judging football fans of any club by comments made on a forum.

 

[Giraffe]

Good day - Burnley fan here in peace - well sort of.

One or two fairly ignorant comments about the club, town and it's people - which surprised me a bit. I used to work with a BHA fan many moons ago (if you are reading Charles, hope you are well ) and he was a real, genuine football fan - in common with most of the BHA fans I've met over the years. I can only assume a new breed have been attracted by that fabulous and bright & shiny new stadium. That said I love some of the stuff they do at your gaff - fan comfort seems to be a central philosophy which is hardly the norm at this level.

Anyway, on to why he might have signed for us. Instinct tells me it is all down to the manager. He's wanted him at least since summer and I suspect he was able to win over Barnes. What I've read of him (Barnes) and the little I've seen he is a player very much in the mould Dyche looks for, works hard, presses high up the pitch, reasonable amount of talent and knows where the goal is even if not prolific. I also imagine the contract on offer at Brighton for whatever reason wasn't as appealing, be it money, duration or both. I doubt the level of football would be a factor, with your greater resources I'd have thought over a 5 year time line you'd have far more chance of making it to the PL than Burnley.

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

Bloody good post, best first post I've seen for many a moon.

Agree with everything you say. I think you've got a good hard working player that may fit into your style of play very well. And we have taken some value from a player we have developed but had every chance of losing for free in the summer. A win for both of us I think. There is also the fact that we want to be in the premiership and I don't think Barnes is a premiership player and is unlikely to ever be. I suspect they have taken a view they would rather buy someone who might be. But lets see.

I wonder if he will play against us when we meet shortly.

 

[Hungry Joe]

All the best Ash and thanks for the memories.

 

[L1882]

Cheers for the positive comments. It does tend to a family religion around here, support Burnley, hate B******s. We have a phrase which you can ask almost anybody, certainly male and they know what you mean - 'are you going on?' means only one thing round here.

The other thing is, large parts are sh***holes but there are also many truly beautiful areas AND (more importantly from a footballers perspective) they nearly all live in Cheshire so are only in the town for match days and training anyway

(and loadicus, I was being a little naughty really, sort of generalising to point out how unfair generalising is - my apologies, it was a little crass but I think helped make the point)

Oh and on Barnes dividing our fans - he might but those that are usually most vocal love a player who runs around a lot, even if they are pants if the ball gets anywhere near them, He'll do fine.

Like I say, Dyche knows exactly what he has bought and his pursuit says he sees him fitting exactly into his blue print.

As for how much it will weaken you (and ignore the NNN article, they like to take themselves rather seriously on there and try to write deep and meaningful pieces ) then it is hard for me to judge but I would imagine, regardless of this sale, you had plans to strenghten this window anyway

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

FFS. How many more times!? Obika is NOT, repeat NOT, Barnes' replacement. He is Lita's replacement.

I thought he was going to brought in as a replacement for Hoskins who was going to be out for the whole season ? Obika then picked up an injury and no one else was suitable or wanted to come here on loan. We drafted in Lita as emergency cover when Leo broke his foot and only had Barnes as the main striker.

 

[B.W.]

Good day - Burnley fan here in peace - well sort of.

One or two fairly ignorant comments about the club, town and it's people - which surprised me a bit. I used to work with a BHA fan many moons ago (if you are reading Charles, hope you are well ) and he was a real, genuine football fan - in common with most of the BHA fans I've met over the years. I can only assume a new breed have been attracted by that fabulous and bright & shiny new stadium. That said I love some of the stuff they do at your gaff - fan comfort seems to be a central philosophy which is hardly the norm at this level.

Anyway, on to why he might have signed for us. Instinct tells me it is all down to the manager. He's wanted him at least since summer and I suspect he was able to win over Barnes. What I've read of him (Barnes) and the little I've seen he is a player very much in the mould Dyche looks for, works hard, presses high up the pitch, reasonable amount of talent and knows where the goal is even if not prolific. I also imagine the contract on offer at Brighton for whatever reason wasn't as appealing, be it money, duration or both. I doubt the level of football would be a factor, with your greater resources I'd have thought over a 5 year time line you'd have far more chance of making it to the PL than Burnley.

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

Nice post. Thank you for that. I think you've got Barnes about spot on. Are you going to lose Ings this window do you think?

 

[B.W.]

I thought he was going to brought in as a replacement for Hoskins who was going to be out for the whole season ? Obika then picked up an injury and no one else was suitable or wanted to come here on loan. We drafted in Lita as emergency cover when Leo broke his foot and only had Barnes as the main striker.

We definitely wanted Obika in earlier in the season/before we signed Lita. But the point I'm making is that we would have signed Obika with or without Barnes departure to cover CMS' extended absence/the wait for his return to full match fitness. We WILL replace Ash now he's gone. That signing should be a permanent one.

 

[Notters]

Good day - Burnley fan here in peace - well sort of.

One or two fairly ignorant comments about the club, town and it's people - which surprised me a bit. I used to work with a BHA fan many moons ago (if you are reading Charles, hope you are well ) and he was a real, genuine football fan - in common with most of the BHA fans I've met over the years. I can only assume a new breed have been attracted by that fabulous and bright & shiny new stadium. That said I love some of the stuff they do at your gaff - fan comfort seems to be a central philosophy which is hardly the norm at this level.

Anyway, on to why he might have signed for us. Instinct tells me it is all down to the manager. He's wanted him at least since summer and I suspect he was able to win over Barnes. What I've read of him (Barnes) and the little I've seen he is a player very much in the mould Dyche looks for, works hard, presses high up the pitch, reasonable amount of talent and knows where the goal is even if not prolific. I also imagine the contract on offer at Brighton for whatever reason wasn't as appealing, be it money, duration or both. I doubt the level of football would be a factor, with your greater resources I'd have thought over a 5 year time line you'd have far more chance of making it to the PL than Burnley.

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

To be fair, I've been to Turf Moor 4 times and had good and bad experiences there. I haven't seen the negative comments on here but it's not surprising some people hold a negative view of a town that has enormous "vote BNP" posters on the derelict chimney stacks as your approach the town, or the local 13 year old kids trying to start on you as you walk down from the station. Having said that it has always been one of my favourite away trips, I love going to the working men's club and the cricket club next to the ground and I like the ground itself, which has a decent away end and usually a good atmosphere.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Good day - Burnley fan here in peace - well sort of.

One or two fairly ignorant comments about the club, town and it's people - which surprised me a bit. I used to work with a BHA fan many moons ago (if you are reading Charles, hope you are well ) and he was a real, genuine football fan - in common with most of the BHA fans I've met over the years. I can only assume a new breed have been attracted by that fabulous and bright & shiny new stadium. That said I love some of the stuff they do at your gaff - fan comfort seems to be a central philosophy which is hardly the norm at this level.

Anyway, on to why he might have signed for us. Instinct tells me it is all down to the manager. He's wanted him at least since summer and I suspect he was able to win over Barnes. What I've read of him (Barnes) and the little I've seen he is a player very much in the mould Dyche looks for, works hard, presses high up the pitch, reasonable amount of talent and knows where the goal is even if not prolific. I also imagine the contract on offer at Brighton for whatever reason wasn't as appealing, be it money, duration or both. I doubt the level of football would be a factor, with your greater resources I'd have thought over a 5 year time line you'd have far more chance of making it to the PL than Burnley.

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

Barnes is a grafter , the reason he has signed for another club is down to the fact that he didn't think he was appreciated by the fans. Once he knew there was interest over the summer and a couple of bids were turned down it was inevitable he wouldn't sign a contract extension. Burnley realise he can be an important squad member and have paid a fee for him instead of waiting until he is out of contract. Good luck Barnesy.

 

[brightn'ove]

end of an era, one of my favourite ever albion players. Deserves a place on 'legends walk'

750k is peanuts for a championship striker.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

We definitely wanted Obika in earlier in the season/before we signed Lita. But the point I'm making is that we would have signed Obika with or without Barnes departure to cover CMS' extended absence/the wait for his return to full match fitness. We WILL replace Ash now he's gone. That signing should be a permanent one.

We need 4 strikers to maintain progress.

 

[The Wizard]

end of an era, one of my favourite ever albion players. Deserves a place on 'legends walk'

Don't agree with that, hard working player scored some important goals but not a legend, or even near it. Unless I've missed the sarcasm.

 

[symyjym]

Good day - Burnley fan here in peace - well sort of.

One or two fairly ignorant comments about the club, town and it's people - which surprised me a bit. I used to work with a BHA fan many moons ago (if you are reading Charles, hope you are well ) and he was a real, genuine football fan - in common with most of the BHA fans I've met over the years. I can only assume a new breed have been attracted by that fabulous and bright & shiny new stadium. That said I love some of the stuff they do at your gaff - fan comfort seems to be a central philosophy which is hardly the norm at this level.

Anyway, on to why he might have signed for us. Instinct tells me it is all down to the manager. He's wanted him at least since summer and I suspect he was able to win over Barnes. What I've read of him (Barnes) and the little I've seen he is a player very much in the mould Dyche looks for, works hard, presses high up the pitch, reasonable amount of talent and knows where the goal is even if not prolific. I also imagine the contract on offer at Brighton for whatever reason wasn't as appealing, be it money, duration or both. I doubt the level of football would be a factor, with your greater resources I'd have thought over a 5 year time line you'd have far more chance of making it to the PL than Burnley.

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

I think Barnes was a target for the 20% of fans who just love moaning, the same ones who will have something to moan about next week. All clubs have fans like this, they shout louder than others but they are not representative of the majority.

You have done well to get him and this new challenge will be good for him. A change is as good as a rest.

Good luck with your promotion challange it will be good to see the underdogs beat the pre season dead certs to an automatic place. If not we will see you in the playoffs

 

[Papa Lazarou]

end of an era, one of my favourite ever albion players. Deserves a place on 'legends walk'

750k is peanuts for a championship striker.

Really? Are you a relatively new supporter?

 

[Driver8]

I won't wish you luck for this season - for obvious reasons - but I will wish you luck for the future and just ask you to remember that it is as ridiculous a generalisation to assume all people in the North fit the media stereotypes as it is to believe all the nonsense spouted about people from Brighton

The homophobic abuse and my wife being told to "**** off back to Brighton" on our way back to the car last season was definitely not my imagination.

 

[Albion Dan]

Deserves a place on 'legends walk'

QUOTE]


Behave. What an absurd suggestion.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Barnes is a grafter , the reason he has signed for another club is down to the fact that he didn't think he was appreciated by the fans. .

No it isn't. Don't be an absolute knob.

He's signed for Burnley, because they are offering him a lengthy contract, on substantially increased wages, and are second in the league.

 

[Acker79]

No it isn't. Don't be an absolute knob.

He's signed for Burnley, because they are offering him a lengthy contract, on substantially increased wages, and are second in the league.

Someone better let Sean Dyche know the deal fell through...