Ashley Barnes isn't nearly good enough for us.

[Thunder Bolt]

Singled out for praise on MOTD in the match at Old Trafford.

 

[BrianWade4]

Very positive segment on MOTD praising how well Barnes played the lone striker role. Bringing others into play, creating changes, holding the ball up and scoring of course

 

[BadFish]

What I find interesting, looking back on this discussion, is how I'm not sure a lot of the people defending Barnes come out of it completely clean. The thread was started when we were in league 1. There were quite a few people talking about replacing Barnes when we get to the championship, and him slipping down our pecking order as we moved up one division. There weren't many people defending him strongly enough to suggest he would not be out of place as the similar position (third striker getting a fair amount of game time) in the premier league. Even those defending him seemed to think upper league one/lower championship would be his level.

I was always keen on keeping him but i never thought for a moment that he would be doing as well as he is at this level. Call that one that got away.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Would any of us be pleased if the only striker we sign in the forthcoming window was Ashley Barnes?

Thought not, please let this thread now die.

 

[Titanic]

Would any of us be pleased if the only striker we sign in the forthcoming window was Ashley Barnes?

Thought not, please let this thread now die.

I would be very happy with that. I think there is a fair chance we won't sign one at all.

 

[durrington gull]

Would any of us be pleased if the only striker we sign in the forthcoming window was Ashley Barnes?

Thought not, please let this thread now die.

This

 

[blockhseagull]

These Barnes threads baffle me.

Is he a decent striker, yes
Is he performing well in the Prem.... he is doing ok.

Would we be better off with him than Hemed or Murray ? Probably not.

No doubt I’ll be labeled a Barnes hater, fact is I’m not. We should have kept him (although that wasn’t really possible given the situation). But the truth of the matter is, he doesn’t really hold a place down in a Prem team, neither do Hemed or Murray, he hasn’t got a great goal scoring record in the Prem... neither do Hemed or Murray.

I’m not quite sure why they keep coming back considering he is only marginally better or the same as what we have.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Very positive segment on MOTD praising how well Barnes played the lone striker role. Bringing others into play, creating changes, holding the ball up and scoring of course

Odd that the MOTD pundits should have one opinion on the player and the Amex-era boo-boys should have a completely different opinion. What gives?

 

[Albion my Albion]

Are we leaving the Barnes door open?

 

[aolstudios]

Very positive segment on MOTD praising how well Barnes played the lone striker role. Bringing others into play, creating changes, holding the ball up and scoring of course

Yep.
& not for the first time.
I'd have him back in an instant

 

[e77]

To be fair as much as I wanted him to stay it would be stretching a point to say I thought he would be a good Premier League player. He might not have made the same development under us.

 

[Weststander]

Odd that the MOTD pundits should have one opinion on the player and the Amex-era boo-boys should have a completely different opinion. What gives?

The Amex-era lynch mob obviously know far more about players than Dyche & ex-pro's.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

These Barnes threads baffle me.

Is he a decent striker, yes
Is he performing well in the Prem.... he is doing ok.

Would we be better off with him than Hemed or Murray ? Probably not.

No doubt I’ll be labeled a Barnes hater, fact is I’m not. We should have kept him (although that wasn’t really possible given the situation). But the truth of the matter is, he doesn’t really hold a place down in a Prem team, neither do Hemed or Murray, he hasn’t got a great goal scoring record in the Prem... neither do Hemed or Murray.

I’m not quite sure why they keep coming back considering he is only marginally better or the same as what we have.

The point of the thread was two or three ignorant people were ranting about him not being good enough for Brighton, when we were still in League 1.
Nobody is campaigning to get him back although he is younger than our present aging strikers.

That's nearly as daft as saying Ryan is too short to be a good keeper.

 

[Questions]

He left us on the 10th jan 2014, so nearly 4 full seasons now.

3 goals in 29 Championship games
14 goals in 82 Premier League games

 

[Hampster Gull]

He left us on the 10th jan 2014, so nearly 4 full seasons now.

3 goals in 29 Championship games
14 goals in 82 Premier League games

Part of a strike team comprising Barnes, Vokes and Wood, all ex Brighton and all deemed not good enough for us. Burnley comfortably 7th

 

[Weststander]

The point of the thread was two or three ignorant people were ranting about him not being good enough for Brighton, when we were still in League 1.
Nobody is campaigning to get him back although he is younger than our present aging strikers.

That's nearly as daft as saying Ryan is too short to be a good keeper.

 

[8th battalion East Lancs]

I can understand the Brighton fans who don't want him back or don't think that he's good enough now for them.

I mean if you polled fans of all the clubs from 6th downwards, he wouldn't get a mention. I'd want better myself as well.

What I can't understand is the Brighton fans, and the Burnley fans for that matter, who don't like him because of the way he plays.

I know that forwards are judged on goals, but the stats don't show what he brings to the Burnley team and has for the past 4 seasons. He wouldn't be playing for Burnley now if it was just about goals.

I've been saying for the past couple of seasons that we need better for the Premier League, and the odd time he does look like a Sunday league pub player, but he keeps on proving me wrong.

It's hard not to love Ashley Barnes.

 

[Weststander]

I can understand the Brighton fans who don't want him back or don't think that he's good enough now for them.

I mean if you polled fans of all the clubs from 6th downwards, he wouldn't get a mention. I'd want better myself as well.

What I can't understand is the Brighton fans, and the Burnley fans for that matter, who don't like him because of the way he plays.

I know that forwards are judged on goals, but the stats don't show what he brings to the Burnley team and has for the past 4 seasons. He wouldn't be playing for Burnley now if it was just about goals.

I've been saying for the past couple of seasons that we need better for the Premier League, and the odd time he does look like a Sunday league pub player, but he keeps on proving me wrong.

It's hard not to love Ashley Barnes.

Just a few posters don't rate Barnes.

For others, he was and is considered to be a vital hard working link between attack and midfield, able to mix it with 'combative' PL centre backs, a great tackler, closes down, great at defending set pieces and weighs in with some vital goals.

 

[Hampster Gull]

I can understand the Brighton fans who don't want him back or don't think that he's good enough now for them.

I mean if you polled fans of all the clubs from 6th downwards, he wouldn't get a mention. I'd want better myself as well.

What I can't understand is the Brighton fans, and the Burnley fans for that matter, who don't like him because of the way he plays.

I know that forwards are judged on goals, but the stats don't show what he brings to the Burnley team and has for the past 4 seasons. He wouldn't be playing for Burnley now if it was just about goals.

I've been saying for the past couple of seasons that we need better for the Premier League, and the odd time he does look like a Sunday league pub player, but he keeps on proving me wrong.

It's hard not to love Ashley Barnes.

indeed, a winner who will only give 100%

 

[Is it PotG?]

I would think some of the 'Barnes is gash' brigade would welcome the likes of Ulloa back with open arms.