I’m not sure this is a reflection of your reading abilities, I said some & I also said they won’t admit it!
[Albion] Article - Football Changed and Chris Hughton Didn’t Keep Up
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I’m not sure this is a reflection of your reading abilities, I said some & I also said they won’t admit it!
Icy Gull
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- Jul 5, 2003
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I have no idea tbh, I wasn’t watching them but we were never going to attain that level of results under CH. just imo mind you. Who knows, if we’d ground out wins and won games after going behind I may have a different viewpoint. I just know I did not enjoy what I was watching at all in the second half of last season. I am happy we are looking to change things around, I don’t feel the need to apologise for that.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
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FFS, I said he struggles in the Prem. Norwich thought he was going to get them relegated so sacked him, Bloom thought he was going to get us relegated so sacked him. How can you say that's nothing like Warnock? Both of them are managers that are always likely to struggle in the Premier League.
If Hughton really is one of those managers who keeps teams up in the Prem then he'll hold out until the Autumn when Prem chairman start panicking and sacking their managers. I suspect that won't happen because they'll be worried about the 3 wins in 23 bit, just like Bloom was.
How many goals did Palace score at home last season playing their 'expansive football' ?
Great article [MENTION=616]Guinness Boy[/MENTION]
- Jun 27, 2012
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Last time i looked Hughton hasn't relegated any club he's managed in the Premier League. Warnock has. Multiple times.
Fair enough if you don't think there's a difference.
Excellent read; can't argue with any of that at all.
I was finding it an ordeal to go to football last season. It was no longer something I looked forward to. It was like "oh **** I've got to go to football on Saturday". It was just no fun any more watching the bus being parked, at home, against sides that were always, eventually, going to find a way round, or through, the bus.
I think TB has done exactly the right thing by dispensing with Hughton's services when he did. I know little about Potter but I trust TB's understanding of the game and his love for our club to have made the right decision to move us forwards.
I'm now looking forward to next season and to enjoying the game again.
I was finding it an ordeal to go to football last season. It was no longer something I looked forward to. It was like "oh **** I've got to go to football on Saturday". It was just no fun any more watching the bus being parked, at home, against sides that were always, eventually, going to find a way round, or through, the bus.
I think TB has done exactly the right thing by dispensing with Hughton's services when he did. I know little about Potter but I trust TB's understanding of the game and his love for our club to have made the right decision to move us forwards.
I'm now looking forward to next season and to enjoying the game again.
Weststander
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CH and PW made the final decisions on transfers in, in conjunction with TB and PB on non-footballing aspects to deals.
If it’s shown at some stage in the future that CH had absolutely no input, I’m all ears.
Megazone
On his last warning
Do you think he would've kept us up (next season) if he wasn't sacked?
- Jun 27, 2012
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Yes.But a) we will never know b) he was being compared to Warnock which is unfair on anyone so i kicked back.
Pickles
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I read a comment in the press last pre season about Warnock, describing him as an 'analogue manager in a digital age'.
I think our Chris, although not at that stage, was heading towards it possibly.
- Jun 27, 2012
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Now we are just being unnecessarily insulting IMO.
Pickles
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I certainly didn't mean to insult Chris, I can assure you, and I really don't think my post was insulting whatsover.
Don't shoot the messenger mate.
- Jun 27, 2012
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Well you've compared him to Warnock and implied he's old fashioned with "analogue" ideas . Not sure he'd be too impressed if you put that to him but fair enough.
Pickles
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Chailey, I didn't compare Chris to Warnock, and if came over that way, it wasn't intended whatsoever, in the way that you may have taken it.
Anyhow, even if I did, isn't this thread about that type of comparison, where the thread is about football changing, and managers not keeping up, or have I missed something here?
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Yes that’s exactly the premise. Some people agree and some don’t. It’s a game (and board) of opinions.
No one is trying to insult CH but that analogue / digital quote has been used about Warnock who finished only two points behind us, having taken six from us.
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Pickles
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GB, nobody has insulted Chris,it seems to me that if you even dare mention his name with a negative attribute, then you're damned.
For the record, my opinion is that Bloom got the decision and the timing right, so shoot me! xxxx
Nixonator
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If they believe that then we are ****ed. We as fans can only comment on what we can see of course, and from what I have seen we are in desperate need of someone proven leading the lines to take over from Murray, more bite in midfield and the replacing of our most technically gifted player at RB/RWB.
Just those three alone will set us back a fortune which I fully expect us to spend. The TV money is there for a reason, EVERYONE improves after EVERY season. If we think we can do it on the cheap by employing a manager who gets the best out of an inferior squad, then we will soon find out quite brutally things don't quite work like that in the PL.
It's this quote from [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] on the barber/holloway on talkshite thread that has me really spooked...
"Quite pointed from Holloway, as expected, on the sacking of Hughton.
Barber's response largely hinging on a belief that Hughton didn't get the best out of the (new) players he had."
Kin Hell.
Nixonator
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I would hope that is just a throwaway excuse for not wanting to be too damning of the man.
- Jun 27, 2012
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We can argue and must disagree about CH's ability as a manager last season, the reasons that explain our poor performance on the pitch/and his ability to develop his existing squad, especially the new signings. And ultimately whether this meant he deserved another season. Clearly Bloom felt otherwise.
But i thought there was a consensus about the values that CH brings to the job, an acknowledgment that he isn't stuck in the past or a "dinosaur" (you said that earlier in the thread GB) and despite being a youthful 60 was still open to modern ideas and coaching trends especially compared to the 70 year old Warnock still looking to keep a club in the Premier league for at least 1 season. But clearly thats up for discussion too. Oh well.
That said. Nobody is insulting anyone here. So apologies if thats inferred. No need to escalate things. Its only a silly NSC thread! sorry.