SlickHenry
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- Apr 10, 2020
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Maybe not the best game but surely the talking point of the day. Bizarre5th game on MOTD.
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[Albion] Arsenal vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***
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Weststander
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BBC commentator desperately keen for a Veltman red.
Weststander
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Lineker pro Rice.
Murphy spot on.
Murphy spot on.
kevo
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- Mar 8, 2008
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Also a game between two teams with a hundred per cent record. No analysis of the match either.
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hart's shirt
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Murphy: "I think Declan deserved the 2nd yellow card."
Hart: "Technically he deserved the yellow."
Lineker....mutter mutter...."and well done Brighton as well."
No analysis of the goals or rest of the match, just the incident.
But that's what you get when you put the game on 5th giving a couple of minutes at most for the pundits.
Hart: "Technically he deserved the yellow."
Lineker....mutter mutter...."and well done Brighton as well."
No analysis of the goals or rest of the match, just the incident.
But that's what you get when you put the game on 5th giving a couple of minutes at most for the pundits.
SlickHenry
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- Apr 10, 2020
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So many players and pundits keep saying he was harsh to be given a red. IT WAS A SECOND YELLOW!
Also by the letter of the law it was a booking.
Murphy got it spot on
Also by the letter of the law it was a booking.
Murphy got it spot on
"MOTD is unbalanced dogshit again" shocker. I'm staggered I tell you.
I wouldn't say he was spot on. He said Veltman wasn't trying to take a quick free-kick, he just kicked Rice. There is no way he was trying to kick Rice. He was either a) trying a quick free-kick down the line or b) trying to take a quick free kick to then moan at Rice for not getting out of the way of the ball.
To be fair, I wouldn't put anything past Veltman.
StonehamPark
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All I have seen are pundits and critics laying into the ref and/or Veltman.
No one really talking about how silly it was for Rice, already on a yellow, to give the ref that decision to make in the first place by doing something so stupid.
Causality.
No one really talking about how silly it was for Rice, already on a yellow, to give the ref that decision to make in the first place by doing something so stupid.
Causality.
Weststander
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They all guessed (they didn’t say it was cert) that Velts meant to kick Rice.
Anyway, I was referring to the second yellow for Rice. Lineker reckons a ref should take account that someone’s already on a yellow his “The game’s gone mad” no feeling for the sport jibe.
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Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
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Nedum Onuoha on ths clip calls out Arteta's bullshit.
Let's cut away the whataboutism that's being used to obscure a very straightforward situation:
1) Yes, Joel Veltman is a master of the dark arts. Yes, he was trying to get Rice a second yellow by taking a quick free kick when he realised that Rice wasn't retreating;
2) By kicking the ball away, Rice committed an obvious bookable offence, doing all Veltman's work for him. He was a mug for getting at all involved when he knew was on a yellow;
3) The Joao Pedro decision in the first half is irrelevant. The rules don't allow for referees to trade off incorrect or debatable decisions throughout the match;
4) Arteta is not really asking for consistency. He simply can't argue that Rice didn't commit a bookable offence, so tries to widen the question to something that he can argue.
Let's cut away the whataboutism that's being used to obscure a very straightforward situation:
1) Yes, Joel Veltman is a master of the dark arts. Yes, he was trying to get Rice a second yellow by taking a quick free kick when he realised that Rice wasn't retreating;
2) By kicking the ball away, Rice committed an obvious bookable offence, doing all Veltman's work for him. He was a mug for getting at all involved when he knew was on a yellow;
3) The Joao Pedro decision in the first half is irrelevant. The rules don't allow for referees to trade off incorrect or debatable decisions throughout the match;
4) Arteta is not really asking for consistency. He simply can't argue that Rice didn't commit a bookable offence, so tries to widen the question to something that he can argue.
Not Andy Naylor
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Ayari spoke to the daily papers after the game. He came across very well and said he has been working hard to make the most of the opportunities that Fab has been giving him. Admits he should have scored. It'll be on the Albion website at some point on Monday.
Cheeky Monkey
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In an Arsenal team with a fair few 'objectionable' players, there's something about Odegaard that really grinds my gears
Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
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This is our third game of the season and the second where their highlights package has included a 'chance' against us that wasn't really a chance because it was obviously offside: McNeil's hitting the post and Odegaard's today. As it seems that we are playing the offside trap under FH and that linos don't seem to bother doing their jobs any more, this is going to irritate me for the whole season. I'm just mentioning it again to get it out of my system, then I'll leave it and we can all just take it as read that there's no time to show any of our actual chances, because we have to watch these Schroedinger's cat chances instead..... and breathe.
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Good summary.
banjo
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Arteta’s a @“?!
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Justice
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If you watch the ball closely before Ayari has the shot it’s spinning like crazy making it difficult to control without taking a touch. He had to strike it unfortunately it was the wrong side.
Man of Harveys
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They’re a truly horrible bunch, led by a truly horrible, useless, Grecian 2000-overusing man.