[News] Are we at war?

[Herr Tubthumper]

How many immigrants were on there?

Not being argumentative just trying to get an idea of numbers.

The posted said the majority, so just over 5 million.

 

[Snowflake]

It all seems to be being stirred up by Iran. They can’t and don’t want to go head to head with the US,
. But someone wants to keep the US busy. Iran is supplying drones and who knows what else to Putin. I dont think we are at war, but not far off.

 

[portlock seagull]

There's an argument we've been at war for years, just not in the sense of mass armed conflict between the biggest nations. Poisonings here and elsewhere, espionage apparently increasing, technology as a state means of mass surveillance of foreign populations (Huawei accusations for eg), hacking at an astronomical scale to compromise essential infrastructure, attempted and successful election interference, and then all the proxy conflicts that have gone on for decades. At the moment it feels like it wouldn't take much to tip that over into major armed conflict, it feels horribly like it's all building up to it.

this.

 

[Questions]

I was anally probed by aliens..
Is this the right thread ?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It feels like we might be?

US says strikes on Iran-linked militias just ‘the beginning’ of its response

National security adviser refuses to rule out targeting Iran after 85 sites were attacked in Iraq and Syria

www.theguardian.com

I think you may have over-excited @carlzeiss

The global war against Islam, has not, I repeat NOT yet begun. No antifada (gedditt??). No rounding them all up.

A few Yemeni peasants who managed to get the tribe to send them to South Bank Poly to get a lower second in computer science may, however, find themselves and their Russian/Iranian-supplied heat-seeking drones, er, blown up.

The end

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

There's an argument we've been at war for years, just not in the sense of mass armed conflict between the biggest nations. Poisonings here and elsewhere, espionage apparently increasing, technology as a state means of mass surveillance of foreign populations (Huawei accusations for eg), hacking at an astronomical scale to compromise essential infrastructure, attempted and successful election interference, and then all the proxy conflicts that have gone on for decades. At the moment it feels like it wouldn't take much to tip that over into major armed conflict, it feels horribly like it's all building up to it.

Life now looks like an episode of Spooks. What a prescient series

 

[Lenny Rider]

But will it end with the nuclear option?

 

[portlock seagull]

But will it end with the nuclear option?

No, I don’t believe so at least not between official states. That’s why we still need conventional weapons. That’s what will do most of the fighting. Of course, NW is possible. It’s a frightening world with and has been since the damn things were invented. Anyway, on a happier note, found a Gulls Eye from early 90s in a box in garage earlier. And a write up of the Hereford game by their Captain. Paused for a trip down memory lane before carrying on clearing out stuff. Cheers Harty!

 

[The Clamp]

The problem is we have the Brits and the yanks who see war as a way to make profit creating a world where true nutters like Putin can wage wars of ideology.

It’s a mess

 

[Thunder Bolt]

When have we not been at war?

1968. The Royal Marines took a year off.

 

[Fitzcarraldo]

I would imagine if you lived in Yemen and you were being bombed it would feel like you were at war.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Indeed - and modern ‘wars’ we are involved in are not now conventional wars but high tech affairs often with remote drone involvement where we back proxies and ‘avoid’ direct confrontation with Russia or Iran (primarily) - the question should not be ‘Are we at War?’ but ‘How far will existing conflicts Escalate?’

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A chilling set of stats, I’m sure replicated by the Yanks as well, and exactly what Tricky Dicky alluded to.

I, like many others on here, learnt in our teens about the powers that be at Versailles stating the 14-18 conflict was the ‘War to end all wars’* only for them to do it all again 21 years later


*Clearly no one told the Germans

Worrying times……

 

[Saladpack Seagull]

Working at a British military hospital from 1978 to 1985 it was obvious that we were involved in many covert operations due to the small but steady trickle of casualties arriving for treatment and sometimes medical discharge. Often the official reason for injury was " Road Traffic Accident" and I still remember the moment that my boss said " Hang on, this is the third RTA from that exact bit of road. I've been there and it's just a straight desert road with virtually nothing on it....." Then the penny dropped and we were both convinced that we were engaged in a conflict which never surfaced to public knowledge. Discussing this with others later, it was felt that such operations, apart from the political benefits they brought to foreign policy, were useful for giving junior officers experience in commanding in combat.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

But will it end with the nuclear option?

We'll never know!

 

[Lenny Rider]

We'll never know!

Unfortunately we wouldn’t be in the first wave apparently, but the fall out from the attack on Portsmouth will probably finish us all off in the days after.

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Unfortunately we wouldn’t be in the first wave apparently, but the fall out from the attack on Portsmouth will probably finish us all off in the days after.

It would be pointless hitting Portsmouth!

 

[Lenny Rider]

It would be pointless hitting Portsmouth!

Has the Naval Base moved?

 

[Dr Q]

Not so for us poor plebs on the Norfolk/Suffolk border - surrounded by USAF and RAF bases - we are used to an almost constant stream of jets in the sky - from training exercises and especially during the first months of the Ukraine war.

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Now we will have the pleasure of hosting US nuclear weapons for the first time in 15 years ( to counter the threat of Russian escalation) on one of the bases ( RAF Lakenheath) a few miles away too - lovely jubbly - take out all the US and RAF bases on the Norfolk/Suffolk border in a first strike - job half done. Next stop Salisbury.

Bit harsh on RAF Mildenhall Visitors Centre! What happened there, Putin had a dodgy scone and his souvenir fridge magnet didn't stick properly

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Has the Naval Base moved?

There's very little there now. We only have a couple of working ships left.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Not so for us poor plebs on the Norfolk/Suffolk border - surrounded by USAF and RAF bases - we are used to an almost constant stream of jets in the sky - from training exercises and especially during the first months of the Ukraine war.

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Now we will have the pleasure of hosting US nuclear weapons for the first time in 15 years ( to counter the threat of Russian escalation) on one of the bases ( RAF Lakenheath) a few miles away too - lovely jubbly - take out all the US and RAF bases on the Norfolk/Suffolk border in a first strike - job half done. Next stop Salisbury.

Have you ever been to the Hunstanton Spice Museum?