Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
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Is the rest of Ireland flipping too? Or are we on for a ferry to Rosslare?
And if we switch to the West, does I 'ave to staaart grizzlin' baaat grockles?
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[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?
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And if we switch to the West, does I 'ave to staaart grizzlin' baaat grockles?
Yes but they'll need two terms, minimum. In my opinion it looks like this:
First term, reform key services, raise taxes, get outside investment and push on with large infrastructure projects. Essentially, put the country on an even-keel.
Second term, rejoin the EU in some form, even if it's just some form of customs union. It's essential and anyone who thinks it isn't needs to get in the sea. Then begin paying down the absolutely enormous national debt and grow the NWF or some other form of sovereign wealth fund.
First term, reform key services, raise taxes, get outside investment and push on with large infrastructure projects. Essentially, put the country on an even-keel.
Second term, rejoin the EU in some form, even if it's just some form of customs union. It's essential and anyone who thinks it isn't needs to get in the sea. Then begin paying down the absolutely enormous national debt and grow the NWF or some other form of sovereign wealth fund.
aolstudios
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This ^
- Oct 17, 2008
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If this the case (and I’m hoping it is) then do you think they’d need to build the groundwork in their first term by floating the idea to the public? Or would this be so catastrophic to their re-election prospects that they daren’t? Because otherwise they’ve only potentially got the 4 years of their second term to do it start to finish - by it I mean pitch it to the electorate/parliament, campaign, produce figures, negotiate/beg the EU basically from scratch, and all the other variables
Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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No.
It's not really possible to do so.
But i'm confident they can manage our decline much more effectively and much less divisively than the tories.
It's not really possible to do so.
But i'm confident they can manage our decline much more effectively and much less divisively than the tories.
Coldeanseagull
Opinionated
I'm a non voting tory(because they play in blue)
I'm quite sure labour will cock up the country in the same way every other party has done.
Now I can put this thread on ignore
I'm quite sure labour will cock up the country in the same way every other party has done.
Now I can put this thread on ignore
I am up for you rejoining but I feel it should be as a full participant.
- Oct 17, 2008
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I actually appreciated @Pavilionaire ’s views on this. The messaging has been poor, IMHO showing a lack of experience and control. The Sue Gray situation was bad optics. There is a need for change, but I have serious question marks over the implementation of two of their major decisions since July (WFH primarily but also farmers now).
I think Pavilionaire used the term “grow up”. I have to agree.
On the brink of World War III, we probably won't be around to measure the success or otherwise of their economic policies.
Ding Dong !
Boy I'm HOT today !
No, bunch of clueless clowns, like the comedy gold that was Diane Abbott.
The Clamp
Well-known member
Well, I’m no major fan but they’re not clueless.
They have chosen some curious sectors of society to bear the burden of the £22bn black hole though.
Everyone who voted yes: Labour fan boys who would say yes whatever happened
Everyone who voted no: Tory fan boys who would say no whatever happened
Everyone who voted fence: The sensible people in the middle, where most of the county sit.
How anybody can seriously confidently predict yes or no after 4 months, I have no idea. Presumably they are the same people that write off a 19 year old international striker who has scored hat-tricks in the Premier League.
Everyone who voted no: Tory fan boys who would say no whatever happened
Everyone who voted fence: The sensible people in the middle, where most of the county sit.
How anybody can seriously confidently predict yes or no after 4 months, I have no idea. Presumably they are the same people that write off a 19 year old international striker who has scored hat-tricks in the Premier League.
The Clamp
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JJ McClure
Go Jags
Once they've picked it out, and shook it up they'll turn it you around and turn it into something new.
Abbott now marginalised and insignificant. Only function is a tool for people to beat Labour with, if they're so inclined.
Uncle Spielberg
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I predict the tories will be back in power in 2024 after this lot
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
Yes , I predict a re-introduction of the Winter Fuel Allowance for OAPs receiving less than £25k p.a. in the last budget before the General Election. This could be achieved by making farmers pay 40% inheritance tax above the £3M threshold.
Am not a labour votor but after last government they have every chance. They have the time 200 majority Just have to have the balls to make decisions and not try to take middle ground all the time to try and please everbody. So much in there favour Unlike last government, No Brexit no Covid and hopefully interest rates on the way down. Just need Ukraine war to end