[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

[Is it PotG?]

Hopefully see some reduction in these figures when we've SMASHED the gangs

I heard matey on the wireless this morning.

Inherited ✓

Red days ✓

Takes time ✓

Working tirelessly ✓

Smash criminal gangs ✓

Misery ✓

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I feel like this is slightly delusional and doesn't really reflect things that accurately. You are crediting them with making tough decisions and blaming that for their unpopularity but tough decisions are not an inherently good thing. The WFA, for example, is just a badly implemented/messaged policy that has made a decent chunk of pensioners permanently hate them with deep passion. See also Farmers with the inheritance tax.
Making bad tough descisions is not something that has any real merit.
There are different types of unpopularity and they are slipping torwards the visceral hatred category with many people rather than the grumbling populace category which would be the case if things were as you describe. They have burned bridges with some important groups and that won't be undone with any ease, even by freeing up money for services.

Also, I get the feeling that you think Labour are above using spin for moral reasons. I don't think that's the case. I think they're just really bad at it. Their failure to connect positively with people has been a thing since Free Gear took over from Corbyn and has simply persisted now they're actually in charge.

I agree that Starmer doesn't connect positively with people like Corbyn did.
If you call the invocation of dislike and contempt a positive connection.

I agree that Labour will never win back the vote of farmers with more than £2 million worth of farm they want to pass on to their kids tax free.
But labour didn't have, and have never had their vote, ever, anyway.

Ditto the FeMail-reading entitled women who never knew their retirement age was no longer 60 because they don't follow the news.

They have all always hated labour.
f*** 'em.

 

[nevergoagain]

I agree that Starmer doesn't connect positively with people like Corbyn did.
If you call the invocation of dislike and contempt a positive connection.

I agree that Labour will never win back the vote of farmers with more than £2 million worth of farm they want to pass on to their kids tax free.
But labour didn't have, and have never had their vote, ever, anyway.

Ditto the FeMail-reading entitled women who never knew their retirement age was no longer 60 because they don't follow the news.

They have all always hated labour.
f*** 'em.

The tolerant left ladies and gentlemen.

 

[Binney on acid]

No. Next question please.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

I agree that Starmer doesn't connect positively with people like Corbyn did.
If you call the invocation of dislike and contempt a positive connection.

I agree that Labour will never win back the vote of farmers with more than £2 million worth of farm they want to pass on to their kids tax free.
But labour didn't have, and have never had their vote, ever, anyway.

Ditto the FeMail-reading entitled women who never knew their retirement age was no longer 60 because they don't follow the news.

They have all always hated labour.
f*** 'em.

Very well said. Nothing more hilarious than Tories trying to make capital out of the outrage from people who always hate Labour. In addition to farmers and Femail readers, see also, taxes on business owners and private schools, and taking social security payment from better off OAPs...