[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

[Is it PotG?]

What's happened today in Labour Land ? I've been out working

It's all lovely in the Labour garden, the future looks fabulous.

 

[Jeremiah]

It's all lovely in the Labour garden, the future looks fabulous.

That's good because I had heard differently.

 

[Bodian]

Yep I totally agree, I know since Labour's been in power the number of people making the crossing in small boats has gone up. More than 20,000 have arrived since July, up from 17,000 in the same period last year. And they have admitted that the number of hotels being used to house asylum seekers has also risen since the election, to more than 35,000 people as of September but I trust that they will sort it out.

One of the main reasons is the weather apparently. More settled - so safer to cross.

They're mostly on cruises all winter anyway.

That's okay, they can still claim a winter fuel payment from abroad https://www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment/if-you-live-abroad

 

[Rdodge30]

Whatever is the grocery tax now? I’m assuming it’s something leftover from the previous ship of fools - it’s the first Ive heard of it

 

[Wallace]

No, the U.K. is done for unless we rejoin the EU and that won’t happen because everyone is too scared to upset the gammons.

So nope, we have been a decaying country since 2016 and we will continue to sink lower until someone nuts up and puts us back in the EU. With no referendum.

How very democratic of you.

 

[dsr-burnley]

These businesses were happy to take the furlough money during covid. That and the rest of the money Rishy spaffed during that time has gotta be paid back somehow.

The furlough money was paid to employees. I don't think there is any way the government can hope to get money back from the workforce, if only because it would knock an enormous hole in the manifesto pledges.

 

[Moshe Gariani]

Are they?

I've not been even ever-so-slightly pro-Tory for a long, long time despite my natural political position probably being a shade right of centre.

But I am absolutely dismayed, as has been apparent by my posts on the subject, that this government have enacted a policy that they themselves said would kill 3,500-4,000 pensioners when they believed the Tories were considering the same thing.

A policy described with terms such as "dangerous" and "cruel" by a raft of organisations who work in the field of elderly welfare.

A policy so bad that a Worthing MP, new to the position, happened to be "unwell" on the day of the vote, so was unable to participate. She is a public health professional by career, so was well aware of the harm the policy was going to cause to many vulnerable people.

What makes it worse is the subsequent lying from the government on all aspects of the policy and attempts to justify it. Utterly shameful.

Parties in opposition have to oppose Government policy. Has there ever been a new Government that has not faced accusations of "shameful" duplicity because when in government they do not act completely consistently with their numerous pronouncements when in opposition?

Judge politicians and Governments by what they actually do when in a position to govern. By their overarching interests and aims. By who they instinctively are most concerned about improving the lives of and by the raft of policies they enact.

Keir Starmer and his team are delivering EXACTLY what I expected and hoped for from them. Endowed public finances in chaos, and key services on their knees, the policy to save some money from paying out a social security benefit to relatively comfortable pensioners, who as a collective generation have been obscenely advantaged, is smart and precisely what Labour should do.