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SeagullsoverLondon

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NSC Patron
Jun 20, 2021
3,873
@SeagullsoverLondon - without wishing to detract anything from your superb organisation of this and all previous tournaments, can I propose that this be the last which features an "away goals" rule?

Obviously I'm not sure what my fellow players think, and I know it might sound odd coming from someone who has just benefitted from said rule, but it doesn't quite sit right with me. I think a replay system for drawn KO matches would be fairer, but that's just my two penn'orth.

Again though, thank you for all your work and diligence with these competitions.
Not going to disagree with you. Clearly a controversial rule, and the annoyance it causes is probably one of the reasons UEFA has abandoned it for their cup competitions. In fairness, I only included partly out of nostalgia, listening to radio and later TV commentary of Euro cup competitions through the years. It added that extra layer of jeopardy to the games.
Also, I thought it would reduce the number of replays (which is has) which sometimes disrupts the flow of the competition, as everyone else is waiting for one game to finish.
In hindsight, perhaps it should not have been used (particularly for the knock out stages, and semis in particular).
 


SeagullsoverLondon

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NSC Patron
Jun 20, 2021
3,873
Europa League Update

The brown envelopes have been counted, so we now come to the end of semi finals, after some controversy.

Full results from yesterday and today:

30/09/2023SF 1@Bakero4@Harry Wilson's tackle4
30/09/2023Conf SF 1@Ooh it’s a corner5@BrightonCottager5
30/09/2023WS SF 1@The Brighton Bear4@Papak4
30/09/20235-8 Play off 1@SeagullsoverLondon4@Bedsex5
30/09/202313-16 Play off 1@Titanic4@Iggle Piggle5
30/09/202321-24 Play off 1@Icy Gull4@Colonel Mustard7
01/10/2023SF 2@One Teddy Maybank3@Frutos3
01/10/2023Conf SF 2@The Oldman5@Cotton Socks3
01/10/2023WS SF 2@DavidinSouthampton2@Bodian4
01/10/20235-8 Play off 2@JJ McClure4@Thunder Bolt3
01/10/202313-16 Play off 2@Dinner with Gotsmanov4@Badger Boy4
01/10/202321-24 Play off 2@pasty5@surrey jim3
 


SeagullsoverLondon

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NSC Patron
Jun 20, 2021
3,873
This means that the final aggregate scores are:

@Bakero7@Harry Wilson's tackle7Bakero wins on the away goals rule
@Ooh it’s a corner8@BrightonCottager9Ooh it's a corner wins
@The Brighton Bear9@Papak8Papak wins
@SeagullsoverLondon7@Bedsex8SeagullsoverLondon wins
@Titanic7@Iggle Piggle8Titanic wins
@Icy Gull7@Colonel Mustard10Icy Gull wins
@One Teddy Maybank8@Frutos8Frutos wins on the away goals rule
@The Oldman9@Cotton Socks7Cotton Socks wins
@DavidinSouthampton7@Bodian9DavidinSouthampton wins
@JJ McClure8@Thunder Bolt6Thunder Bolt wins
@Dinner with Gotsmanov7@Badger Boy9Dinner with Gotsmanov wins
@pasty10@surrey jim8Surrey jim wins
 




SeagullsoverLondon

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NSC Patron
Jun 20, 2021
3,873
So, on to the finals.
And checking my notes:
Final (in Virtual Dublin - have your Guinness ready) - one game - replay as necessary.
The plan was for a one standalone game final (one leg only)
However, the competition has evolved, so the plan will be for 12 "final games"

My proposed schedule is to build up to the overall winner's game by sorting out the minor places earlier:


Final Games
02/10/202323-24 Playoff@Colonel Mustard@pasty
02/10/202321-22 Playoff@Icy Gull@surrey jim
02/10/202319-20 Playoff@The Brighton Bear@Bodian
02/10/202317-18 WS Final@Papak@DavidinSouthampton
03/10/202315-16 Playoff@Iggle Piggle@Badger Boy
03/10/202313-14 Playoff@Titanic@Dinner with Gotsmanov
03/10/202311-12 Playoff@BrightonCottager@The Oldman
03/10/20239-10 Playoff Conf Final@Ooh it’s a corner@Cotton Socks
04/10/20237-8 Playoff@Bedsex@JJ McClure
04/10/20235-6 Playoff@SeagullsoverLondon@Thunder Bolt
04/10/20233-4 Playoff@Harry Wilson's tackle@One Teddy Maybank
05/10/2023Europa Final@Bakero@Frutos

Obviously schedule would be moved to allow for replays. Also, if everyone would prefer a two legged contest, I am equally happy for us to do that.
Let me know what everyone would like, and we can go with the consensus.
 
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Frutos

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Helpful Moderator
NSC Patron
May 3, 2006
36,302
Northumberland
So, on to the finals.
And checking my notes:

The plan was for a one standalone game final (one leg only)
However, the competition has evolved, so the plan will be for 12 "final games"

My proposed schedule is to build up to the overall winner's game by sorting out the minor places earlier:


Final Games
02/10/202323-24 Playoff@Colonel Mustard@pasty
02/10/202321-22 Playoff@Icy Gull@surrey jim
02/10/202319-20 Playoff@The Brighton Bear@Bodian
02/10/202317-18 WS Final@Papak@DavidinSouthampton
03/10/202315-16 Playoff@Iggle Piggle@Badger Boy
03/10/202313-14 Playoff@Titanic@Dinner with Gotsmanov
03/10/202311-12 Playoff@BrightonCottager@The Oldman
03/10/20239-10 Playoff Conf Final@Ooh it’s a corner@Cotton Socks
04/10/20237-8 Playoff@Bedsex@JJ McClure
04/10/20235-6 Playoff@SeagullsoverLondon@Thunder Bolt
04/10/20233-4 Playoff@Harry Wilson's tackle@One Teddy Maybank
05/10/2023Europa Final@Bakero@Frutos

Obviously scheduled would be moved to allow for replays. Also, if everyone would prefer a two legged contest, I am equally happy for us to do that.
Let me know what everyone would like, and we can go with the consensus.
I think one "leg" and replays is the way to go.

Thanks again for all your work on this!
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,106
Faversham
So, on to the finals.
And checking my notes:

The plan was for a one standalone game final (one leg only)
However, the competition has evolved, so the plan will be for 12 "final games"

My proposed schedule is to build up to the overall winner's game by sorting out the minor places earlier:


Final Games
02/10/202323-24 Playoff@Colonel Mustard@pasty
02/10/202321-22 Playoff@Icy Gull@surrey jim
02/10/202319-20 Playoff@The Brighton Bear@Bodian
02/10/202317-18 WS Final@Papak@DavidinSouthampton
03/10/202315-16 Playoff@Iggle Piggle@Badger Boy
03/10/202313-14 Playoff@Titanic@Dinner with Gotsmanov
03/10/202311-12 Playoff@BrightonCottager@The Oldman
03/10/20239-10 Playoff Conf Final@Ooh it’s a corner@Cotton Socks
04/10/20237-8 Playoff@Bedsex@JJ McClure
04/10/20235-6 Playoff@SeagullsoverLondon@Thunder Bolt
04/10/20233-4 Playoff@Harry Wilson's tackle@One Teddy Maybank
05/10/2023Europa Final@Bakero@Frutos

Obviously schedule would be moved to allow for replays. Also, if everyone would prefer a two legged contest, I am equally happy for us to do that.
Let me know what everyone would like, and we can go with the consensus.
It's been brilliant (despite my away goal exit). :thumbsup:
 




SeagullsoverLondon

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NSC Patron
Jun 20, 2021
3,873
League Table Update
While I am finding reasons not to do any work this afternoon:
Overall
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2023 Average
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SeagullsoverLondon

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NSC Patron
Jun 20, 2021
3,873
And... just in case anyone decides to write a research paper on the matter, possible evidence of the impact of improved performance when there is a silly competition for people to play:
Nearly all players who record their stats have seen an improvement since the Europa competition started.

PlayedAverage end AugustAverage start of OctoberChange
Bakero3.513.5-0.01
Titanic3.623.6-0.02
Frutos3.653.64-0.01
JJ McClure3.683.680
One Teddy Maybank3.733.72-0.01
The Oldman3.753.74-0.01
BrightonCottager3.763.73-0.03
Bedsex3.833.830
SeagullsoverLondon3.913.89-0.02
The Brighton Bear43.97-0.03
Dinner with Gotsmanov4.013.99-0.02
Harry Wilson's tackle4.044.02-0.02
Badger Boy4.144.11-0.03

This is even more apparent when looking at the 2023 data alone:


PlayedAverage end AugustAverage start of OctoberChange
Titanic3.563.52-0.04
BrightonCottager3.63.59-0.01
Bedsex3.653.680.03
JJ McClure3.683.67-0.01
The Oldman3.693.66-0.03
SeagullsoverLondon3.883.82-0.06
The Brighton Bear3.93.86-0.04
Dinner with Gotsmanov3.943.9-0.04
Harry Wilson's tackle4.013.96-0.05
Badger Boy4.033.99-0.04
 


Badger Boy

Mr Badger
Jan 28, 2016
3,658
Your work on this has been stunning @SeagullsoverLondon , thank you for your time and organisational skills! I was very unhappy with my away goals rule knock out but this was CLASSIC Europa League format and those injustices happened in real life and it feels somehow fitting that there have been some outrageous KOs! Fantastic competition again but I'll be pleased never to have away goal rules in future!
 




Papak

Not an NSC licker...
Jul 11, 2003
2,278
Horsham
So the first silverware is up for grabs tomorrow as the minnows battle it out for the "WS" - much better than actually calling it the Wooden Spoon :)

I think an early night with a special 5 letter words only dictionary for me...

I was also wondering if the competition had tightened up the scoring at all and it appears it has so thanks @SeagullsoverLondon for making us all improved Wordlers.
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,251
Cumbria
So, on to the finals.
And checking my notes:

The plan was for a one standalone game final (one leg only)
However, the competition has evolved, so the plan will be for 12 "final games"

My proposed schedule is to build up to the overall winner's game by sorting out the minor places earlier:


Final Games
02/10/202323-24 Playoff@Colonel Mustard@pasty
02/10/202321-22 Playoff@Icy Gull@surrey jim
02/10/202319-20 Playoff@The Brighton Bear@Bodian
02/10/202317-18 WS Final@Papak@DavidinSouthampton
03/10/202315-16 Playoff@Iggle Piggle@Badger Boy
03/10/202313-14 Playoff@Titanic@Dinner with Gotsmanov
03/10/202311-12 Playoff@BrightonCottager@The Oldman
03/10/20239-10 Playoff Conf Final@Ooh it’s a corner@Cotton Socks
04/10/20237-8 Playoff@Bedsex@JJ McClure
04/10/20235-6 Playoff@SeagullsoverLondon@Thunder Bolt
04/10/20233-4 Playoff@Harry Wilson's tackle@One Teddy Maybank
05/10/2023Europa Final@Bakero@Frutos

Obviously schedule would be moved to allow for replays. Also, if everyone would prefer a two legged contest, I am equally happy for us to do that.
Let me know what everyone would like, and we can go with the consensus.
This whole thing has been excellent - thank you. And certainly makes me realise that some people know a lot of words! Good luck to all - especially the finalists.
 










Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,106
Faversham
Wordle 835 4/6

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