Anyone else not really understanding what the Dicker hype is all about?

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Jul 5, 2003
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I just don't get it.

Yes, he's decent enough, but some people seem to think he's the new Pele.

Man of the match today, that must have been the 4th time he's got it in about 5 home games? Ridiculous.

Yes, he looks very comfortable on the ball (good control, decent passing), but does he do anything other than that? He's not the greatest at breaking up play, (he's certainly not a hard man) he isn't particularly creative (everything came through Bennett today, again) and he certainly doesn't score goals.

I saw someone on another thread giving him a 10 today. A TEN out of 10? What is he doing that I'm not seeing? Just looked like a solid display today to be honest, nothing really special.

What is it I'm missing? What makes him so much better than just a "decent keeper of the ball" ? Or is it just the rest of the midfield making him look good? I'm baffled. Crofts does the defensive work, and bombs forward too. Yes, he's a limited player, but he actually seems to be more effective in terms of influencing a game.

What exactly is it that Dicker is doing that's so brilliant? Why isn't Bennett getting the hype he is, when all our goals are coming through him? It just seems bizarre to me.

So come on, tell me - other than looking comfortable on the ball, what exactly IS it that Dicker does so well to have everyone raving about him and Man of the match awards coming in left right and centre?
 




cjd

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Jun 22, 2006
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I just don't get it.

Yes, he's decent enough, but some people seem to think he's the new Pele.

Man of the match today, that must have been the 4th time he's got it in about 5 home games? Ridiculous.

Yes, he looks very comfortable on the ball (good control, decent passing), but does he do anything other than that? He's not the greatest at breaking up play, (he's certainly not a hard man) he isn't particularly creative (everything came through Bennett today, again) and he certainly doesn't score goals.

I saw someone on another thread giving him a 10 today. A TEN out of 10? What is he doing that I'm not seeing? Just looked like a solid display today to be honest, nothing really special.

What is it I'm missing? What makes him so much better than just a "decent keeper of the ball" ? Or is it just the rest of the midfield making him look good? I'm baffled. Crofts does the defensive work, and bombs forward too. Yes, he's a limited player, but he actually seems to be more effective in terms of influencing a game.

What exactly is it that Dicker is doing that's so brilliant? Why isn't Bennett getting the hype he is, when all our goals are coming through him? It just seems bizarre to me.

So come on, tell me - other than looking comfortable on the ball, what exactly IS it that Dicker does so well to have everyone raving about him and Man of the match awards coming in left right and centre?



I don't think Dicker is the new "Pele", but you must remember that compared to Navarro (Slade,s preferred choice), he does indeed look world class.
 


Jul 5, 2003
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I don't think Dicker is the new "Pele", but you must remember that compared to Navarro (Slade,s preferred choice), he does indeed look world class.


No, Navarra was Slade's preferred choice in the first few games, but Slade decided to drop him after that.

Ever since the fans sang for him at Millwall, it almost seems as if everyone thinks we've got Gerrard or something in the team, and says he is good regardless of what he does.

I just don't get it.
 


hopper_182

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Sep 25, 2008
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I just don't get it.

Yes, he's decent enough, but some people seem to think he's the new Pele.

Man of the match today, that must have been the 4th time he's got it in about 5 home games? Ridiculous.

Yes, he looks very comfortable on the ball (good control, decent passing), but does he do anything other than that? He's not the greatest at breaking up play, (he's certainly not a hard man) he isn't particularly creative (everything came through Bennett today, again) and he certainly doesn't score goals.

I saw someone on another thread giving him a 10 today. A TEN out of 10? What is he doing that I'm not seeing? Just looked like a solid display today to be honest, nothing really special.

What is it I'm missing? What makes him so much better than just a "decent keeper of the ball" ? Or is it just the rest of the midfield making him look good? I'm baffled. Crofts does the defensive work, and bombs forward too. Yes, he's a limited player, but he actually seems to be more effective in terms of influencing a game.

What exactly is it that Dicker is doing that's so brilliant? Why isn't Bennett getting the hype he is, when all our goals are coming through him? It just seems bizarre to me.

So come on, tell me - other than looking comfortable on the ball, what exactly IS it that Dicker does so well to have everyone raving about him and Man of the match awards coming in left right and centre?

Dicker is a superb player. His abilty to make passes is only surpassed by his abilty to pick the right pass. He can do this by being comfortable with the ball at his feet, and by making a bit of space for himself he is able to dictate what happens with the ball when we have it. Other Brighton players see this, and give him the ball making him, at times, the focus point of the team.

However, he is not a perfect 10. At times he does come very close though. He was unlucky not to score today, and i recall him coming close to scoring when he hit the post recently too. If the teams performance improves, i think he will score a decent amount of goals from midfield. Hopefully he will provide the sort of goals Dean Hammond did for us.

Bennett is a superb winger, but he did have a few bad points today. A couple of times he had awful delivery, and he isnt the finished article and has some improvements to be made. Whereas dicker hardly put a foot wrong, and that is why he fully deserves MOM. :thumbsup:
 


cjd

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Jun 22, 2006
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No, Navarra was Slade's preferred choice in the first few games, but Slade decided to drop him after that.

Ever since the fans sang for him at Millwall, it almost seems as if everyone thinks we've got Gerrard or something in the team, and says he is good regardless of what he does.

I just don't get it.

No.......Navarro went off injured at Millwall.......and that is the ONLY reason Dicker got back into the team. Dickers performances since then, have made it impossible for Slade to drop him.

Slade has of course, tried yet again to get Navarro in the team through the "back door" (left side midfield at the expense of Thornhill, Cox and Davies), but YET AGAIN, Navarro has been hopeless.
 




Jul 5, 2003
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No.......Navarro went off injured at Millwall.......and that is the ONLY reason Dicker got back into the team. Dickers performances since then, have made it impossible for Slade to drop him.

Slade has of course, tried yet again to get Navarro in the team through the "back door" (left side midfield at the expense of Thornhill, Cox and Davies), but YET AGAIN, Navarro has been hopeless.

Navarro has played once in the league since getting injured, so not sure what you're on about with that.

It's attitudes like that that I don't understand, people who like Dicker simply because he's not Navarro.
 


cjd

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Jun 22, 2006
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Navarro has played once in the league since getting injured, so not sure what you're on about with that.

It's attitudes like that that I don't understand, people who like Dicker simply because he's not Navarro.


Have you been drinking...?
 


The Truth

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He has the ability to play killer balls, puts his foot on the ball and isn't scared of making a challenge. We've lacked this since Carpenter, a brain in midfield. His game is very modest much like the way Gareth Barry plays eg seeing and releasing passes early. Yes he's not Pele but for this standard he's a very assured midfielder who can enable players like Bennett to receive much more of the ball. He isn't a goal scorer and probably will never be much like Palacios,Flamini, Essien etc . He partners Croft well but I feel if he had a Dean Hammond or Bradley Johnson playing alongside him, you'd see his true effect much clearer creating far more goals with an attacking partner. I do think Crofts is a good reliable centre-mid but not too dissimilar to Dicker which can often result in one of the two midfielders having a quite performance.
 
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bright1064

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Superb passer of the ball, comfortable in possession, perfect tackler of the ball, great engine and looks like he can have a dig now and again. Pele he is not, however he is the most complete central midfielder we have had for a while.
 


Jul 5, 2003
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He has the ability to play killer balls, puts his foot on the ball and isn't scared of making a challenge. We've lacked this since Carpenter, a brain in midfield. His game is very modest much like the way Gareth Barry plays eg seeing and releasing passes early. Yes he's not Pele but for this standard he's a very assured midfielder who can enable players like Bennett to recieve much more of the ball. He isn't a goal scorer and probably will never be much like Palacios,Flamini, Essien etc . He partners Croft well but I feel if he had a Dean Hammond or Bradley Johnson, you'd see his true effect much clearer creating far more goals with an attacking partner. I do think Crofts is a good reliable centre-mid but not too dissimilar to Dicker which can often result in one of the two midfielders having a quite performance.


I'm trying to think of some killer balls from Dicker in his time at the club? Crofts is the only midfielder we've got who "isn't scared of making a challenge" as I see it, but he isn't anywhere near as composed on the ball. All Dicker's good work, as far as I can see, seems to be when he's on the ball in our half of the pitch. Yes, he's bloody good at it, but does it really bring much to the party in the grand scheme of things?
 


The Truth

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I'm trying to think of some killer balls from Dicker in his time at the club? Crofts is the only midfielder we've got who "isn't scared of making a challenge" as I see it, but he isn't anywhere near as composed on the ball. All Dicker's good work, as far as I can see, seems to be when he's on the ball in our half of the pitch. Yes, he's bloody good at it, but does it really bring much to the party in the grand scheme of things?

Dicker made far more tackles than Croft today, some were exceptional. He played 2 killer balls today, one down the line to Bennett which put Hartlepool on the back foot and the other was down to Coxs, outside of the boot. Against Gillingham there were numerous through/killer balls made by Dicker one from 40 odd yards across field to bennett which had him through, best pass I've seen us make this season.
 
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FalmerforAll!**

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He's the midfielder we've needed for ages. Quality and composed on the ball, superb footballing brain and decent with both feet. The only issue is hanging onto the ball for too long. I sympathise with him in that respect, since the rest of the team's movement is so piss poor, the fact that he really has nothing to work with isn't his fault. He got caught out a couple of times when the referree didn't give a couple of free kicks when he seemed to be unfairly taken off the ball. Still, much better than everything we've had since O'Callaghan/Hammond. Step in the right direction, one of the few positives from today.
 




Acker79

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Nov 15, 2008
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I find it hard to see why anyone puts any of our players so far ahead of the rest of them. I don't see it with Dicker, I don't see it with Murray, I don't see it with Dickinson (yes, there are people who put him ahead of the rest)

I guess I can see it with Forster, to a degree, He would probably be further ahead of the team if he was younger.
 




dougdeep

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Blimey, now WW is inventing an opinion to argue against. Did anyone on here compare Dicker to Pele?
 


Mendoza

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I think Dicker is great because he doesnt ever panick when he has the ball. He is always a step a head of everyone else in the team and knows what he is going to do before he receives the ball.

There are so many times when someone on our team would kick it forward, but Dicker has a simple pass in his head and usually pulls it off.

When a long ball gos over the top from the opposition most of our team will head it straight back, Dicker does something different like cushion a header sidewyas to a team mate or bring tha ball down and then make a pass.

Last week at against Oldham, classic example was the the ball dropped on the edge of our box, Virgo was steaming into to smash it clear of the box to safety, but Dicker took the ball off his feet just before he kicked it, passed out wide to Bennett who steamed down the wing, put a cross in and won us a corner.

After all that Dicker, retains pocession, sets up our attacks from deep instead of punting forward for their defence to clear straight back to us
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

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WW - you shoot credibility in the foot by giving El Abd a 7 and Elphick a 0 (and Smith a 3 for that matter) in the Ratings thread. You have an agenda as much as the next fan. No idea why you don't like Dicker - but he had an immense game. If even the Sponsors can spot it - and they would normally give MOM to a striker who scores two goals no matter how well another player played - then he had a good game.

For me personally, Bennett shaded MOM because their defence were terrified of him, but Dicker had a great game and is a spanking buy IMHO.
 


R. Slicker

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It's not that he's the new 'Pele'. But he is head & shoulders above the midfield players we have had to endure for the past couple of seasons.
 




Billy the Fish

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For me personally, Bennett shaded MOM because their defence were terrified of him.

I'm glad someone else thinks that. I can't believe people are making him down because his corner/free kick didn't beat the first man a couple of times towards the end of the game. Fot the other 80 minutes he was firing bullets into the box and causing havock.
 




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