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Argartu

Active member
Jun 5, 2014
254
Hi everyone,

Came back to my car to find a ticket for parking in a disabled bay on my windscreen, much to my chagrin. This was the bay at the top of the Burgess Hill High Street, and is not marked on the road. There is one little sign at the bottom end of the bay denoting it as disabled.

My thinking is that as there is only a sign and no road markings indicating it's disabled only, this space doesn't meet the gov't guidelines and therefore the ticket should be appealable?

Pic below for reference, any advice would be appreicated.

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Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,497
Sussex by the Sea
I am not sure since it is not a Disabled Bay 24 hours a day, just within the specified times.

Needs an expert

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Arthritic Toe

Well-known member
Nov 25, 2005
2,488
Swindon
Not sure. The road markings aren't very clear though - looks for all the world like a regular parking bay. Worth a polite appeal though. The local authority are more likely to treat an appeal fairly and on its merits than the private firms, who just deny appeals as a matter of course.
 


Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,641
Looks like the entire bay is for disabled badge holders in stated Time, no chance

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hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
Helpful Moderator
Mar 16, 2005
62,770
Chandlers Ford
Hi everyone,

Came back to my car to find a ticket for parking in a disabled bay on my windscreen, much to my chagrin. This was the bay at the top of the Burgess Hill High Street, and is not marked on the road. There is one little sign at the bottom end of the bay denoting it as disabled.

My thinking is that as there is only a sign and no road markings indicating it's disabled only, this space doesn't meet the gov't guidelines and therefore the ticket should be appealable?

Pic below for reference, any advice would be appreicated.

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I am not sure since it is not a Disabled Bay 24 hours a day, just within the specified times.

Needs an expert

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It is totally clear. There's one single sign next to the bay of spaces, so it has to be assumed that the restriction apply to all of the spaces.

Bang to rights, I'd say, but no harm in appealing it - good luck.
 












BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
As per the pictures I believe that anybody who parks behind the back car of the two ie nearer the corner should have their penalty doubled as it is inconsiderate to all other motorists and causes immense jams and congestion to large vehicles like buses turning into the road. Not sure whether that app[lies to the OP or if his was the 2nd car.
 




Argartu

Active member
Jun 5, 2014
254
Was at the back of the bay as you look at it in the picture, which is why I didn't clock the sign in the first place.

A bit of digging has revealed that The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 dictates that disabled bays do not need to be marked as such in the road.

Seems like a nice moneyspinner for the council, the whole road is free parking apart from that section and I bet I'm not the first person they've caught out!
 


boik

Well-known member
Was at the back of the bay as you look at it in the picture, which is why I didn't clock the sign in the first place.

A bit of digging has revealed that The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 dictates that disabled bays do not need to be marked as such in the road.

Seems like a nice moneyspinner for the council, the whole road is free parking apart from that section and I bet I'm not the first person they've caught out!

You might have a different view if you, or one of your family, were disabled.
 


Magic Sponge

Well-known member
Jun 17, 2011
1,142
House In The Hill
This has caught a few people out and because there was only one small sign someone had some larger ones made and fixed them to the wall at this site, but looking at your picture it looks like they have been removed.
 






Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
14,289
Cumbria
Was at the back of the bay as you look at it in the picture, which is why I didn't clock the sign in the first place.

A bit of digging has revealed that The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 dictates that disabled bays do not need to be marked as such in the road.

Seems like a nice moneyspinner for the council, the whole road is free parking apart from that section and I bet I'm not the first person they've caught out!

Hope you didn't read all of this! They have actually been superseded by a 2016 version, which is around 550 pages long if you're really interested....
 


My neighbour went shopping at a supermarket which had changed hand (co-op to Lidl). Unbeknownst to her, not only had the supermarket changed but also the car park rules. Every bay was now a 10 minutes loading bay and a week later a PCN dropped through her letterbox.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Seems like a nice moneyspinner for the council, the whole road is free parking apart from that section and I bet I'm not the first person they've caught out!

That isnt so the road is clearly signposted No Parking disabled only and is regularly patrolled. I accept that many people ignore this and take a chance to 'nip' in the bank etc.
 




The Antikythera Mechanism

The oldest known computer
NSC Patron
Aug 7, 2003
8,093
As per the pictures I believe that anybody who parks behind the back car of the two ie nearer the corner should have their penalty doubled as it is inconsiderate to all other motorists and causes immense jams and congestion to large vehicles like buses turning into the road. Not sure whether that app[lies to the OP or if his was the 2nd car.

It’s a google street view image, not the OP’s.
 


Perkino

Well-known member
Dec 11, 2009
6,053
I parked in this bay earlier on this week to pop into the bank and only realised it was a disabled bay on my return. I don't park in town regularly but last time I did I'm certain it was a general parking bay
 


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