Animals - Help Avoid their Torture!!

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Every day, millions of animals are slaughtered so we can eat their flesh.

For many years, animals have been repetitively experimented on for reactions to chemicals and products. More often than we care to think about, laboratories request more and more of the same experiments JUST so they can keep receiving grants - they already know what they needed to find out, but they relentlessly repeat horrific tortures upon defenceless innocents, just so the government (with your money) will hand them another ten thousand pounds and keep them busy experimenting (which becomes torturing, since it's no longer for any scientific reason).

Why not simply do what you can - shop at places that do not use animal-tested products. The Body Shop is one, perfumes and soaps, toiletries and household products that are not causing animal tests.

Do NOT eat 'Veal' especially. This is a young calf that is prevented from living freely, walking and exercising its' muscles, is force-fed with things that keep the meat weak and white, and is killed before it can enjoy any kind of life.

Cut down on your meat intake. You do not need to eat meat with every meal! ...and you do not need much when you do eat it. Why not make the bulk of your meal vegetables, nuts, seeds and fruit?
Versatile, various, delicious, nutricious, and necessary for a balanced healthy diet.

Instead of Uncle Sams or some other burger chain - spend the same in Food For Friends, or another vege restaurant, and actually feel that you have eaten healthy food, after it's finished?

You might also feel just a little self-esteem growing, from the small amount of effort it takes to be aware, and to not add to the merciless killings done elsewhere so that society can safely and blithely buy a shiny, environmentally unfriendly wrapped parcel, of mostly-blood-drained flesh on polystyrene.

Here I invite the imaginative NSC-ers to post and recommend;
VEGE RESTAURANTS & FAST-FOOD OUTLETS
MEAT-FREE RECIPES
OUTLETS & BRANDS FOR PRODUCTS NOT TESTED ON ANIMALS.
 
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Springal

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yea ok

*he says with a sausage and bacon sandwich on his desk*
 


Commander

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Worthy of it's own thread?

If the world went vegetarian, would would you suggest we do with all the domestic cows / sheep etc? And what do we do with the farmers who rely on them for their livelihood? And why do we have canine teeth?
 


Commander

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Also, if someone close to you was dying, and needed some sort of medicine / treatment that had been tested on animals to ease their suffering / keep them alive, would you rather they didn't have it?
 


NMH said:
Every day, millions of animals are slaughtered so we can eat their flesh.

For many years, animals have been repetitively experimented on for reactions to chemicals and products. More often than we care to think about, laboratories request more and more of the same experiments JUST so they can keep receiving grants - they already know what they needed to find out, but they relentlessly repeat horrific tortures upon defenceless innocents, just so the government (with your money) will hand them another ten thousand pounds and keep them busy experimenting (which becomes torturing, since it's no longer for any scientific reason).

Why not simply do what you can - shop at places that do not use animal-tested products. The Body Shop is one, perfumes and soaps, toiletries and household products that are not causing animal tests.

Do NOT eat 'Veal' especially. This is a young calf that is prevented from living freely, walking and exercising its' muscles, is force-fed with things that keep the meat weak and white, and is killed before it can enjoy any kind of life.

Cut down on your meat intake. You do not need to eat meat with every meal! ...and you do not need much when you do eat it. Why not make the bulk of your meal vegetables, nuts, seeds and fruit?
Versatile, various, delicious, nutricious, and necessary for a balanced healthy diet.

Instead of Uncle Sams or some other burger chain - spend the same in Food For Friends, or another vege restaurant, and actually feel that you have eaten healthy food, after it's finished?

You might also feel just a little self-esteem growing, from the small amount of effort it takes to be aware, and to not add to the merciless killings done elsewhere so that society can safely and blithely buy a shiny, environmentally unfriendly wrapped parcel, of mostly-blood-drained flesh on polystyrene.

Here I invite the imaginative NSC-ers to post and recommend;
VEGE RESTAURANTS & FAST-FOOD OUTLETS
MEAT-FREE RECIPES
OUTLETS & BRANDS FOR PRODUCTS NOT TESTED ON ANIMALS.
:braders:
 




Les Biehn

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Aug 14, 2005
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Also I have been doing weights and need the protein to build up muscle. If I don't do this there is less chance of me having sex. If you really want me to miss out than you are clearly worse than all the meateaters on here.
 


Meade's Ball

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Jul 7, 2003
13,653
Hither (sometimes Thither)
We have a choice, don't we. Our meals are our options and in this particular land we get to vote for the death of beasts for our pleasure, or a sometimes tasteless, drab orge of vegetable or disguise to more easily conceal our guilt.
I go for the latter, but largely as the soothing of guilt and supposed knowledge of consequence.
 
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Trufflehound

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Aug 5, 2003
14,126
The democratic and free EU
The "Party for the Animals" just won two seats in the Dutch general election yesterday - the first Animal Rights group ever to get elected into parliament in Europe (edit: in the world actually)...

http://www.partijvoordedieren.nl/content/view/129
 
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nail-Z

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Jul 10, 2003
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North Somerset
NMH said:
Every day, millions of animals are slaughtered so we can eat their flesh.

For many years, animals have been repetitively experimented on for reactions to chemicals and products. More often than we care to think about, laboratories request more and more of the same experiments JUST so they can keep receiving grants - they already know what they needed to find out, but they relentlessly repeat horrific tortures upon defenceless innocents, just so the government (with your money) will hand them another ten thousand pounds and keep them busy experimenting (which becomes torturing, since it's no longer for any scientific reason).

Why not simply do what you can - shop at places that do not use animal-tested products. The Body Shop is one, perfumes and soaps, toiletries and household products that are not causing animal tests.

Do NOT eat 'Veal' especially. This is a young calf that is prevented from living freely, walking and exercising its' muscles, is force-fed with things that keep the meat weak and white, and is killed before it can enjoy any kind of life.

Cut down on your meat intake. You do not need to eat meat with every meal! ...and you do not need much when you do eat it. Why not make the bulk of your meal vegetables, nuts, seeds and fruit?
Versatile, various, delicious, nutricious, and necessary for a balanced healthy diet.

Instead of Uncle Sams or some other burger chain - spend the same in Food For Friends, or another vege restaurant, and actually feel that you have eaten healthy food, after it's finished?

You might also feel just a little self-esteem growing, from the small amount of effort it takes to be aware, and to not add to the merciless killings done elsewhere so that society can safely and blithely buy a shiny, environmentally unfriendly wrapped parcel, of mostly-blood-drained flesh on polystyrene.

Here I invite the imaginative NSC-ers to post and recommend;
VEGE RESTAURANTS & FAST-FOOD OUTLETS
MEAT-FREE RECIPES
OUTLETS & BRANDS FOR PRODUCTS NOT TESTED ON ANIMALS.

I'm all in favour of people posting their opinions on the board as it does stimulate debate.

But this post is more like "preaching", which I think does nothing but give vegetarians a bad name.

You've made your choice, let other people make theirs.
 


Meade's Ball

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Re: Re: Animals - Help Avoid their Torture!!

nail-Z-gull said:
I'm all in favour of people posting their opinions on the board as it does stimulate debate.

But this post is more like "preaching", which I think does nothing but give vegetarians a bad name.

You've made your choice, let other people make theirs.

In the same boat, could pacifists be given a bad name?
 






Man of Harveys

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Jul 9, 2003
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Brighton, UK
Trufflehound said:
The "Party for the Animals" just won two seats in the Dutch general election yesterday - the first Animal Rights group ever to get elected into parliament in Europe (edit: in the world actually)...

http://www.partijvoordedieren.nl/content/view/129
Tell us that they're going to march into Strasbourg with animals dressed up in costumes when they meet. PLEASE SAY IT'S TRUE. I'll happily JOIN the Dutch Party For The Animals if they promise to do that.
 


Meade's Ball

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Animals - Help Avoid their Torture!!

Trufflehound said:
You could call them Archibald - that's a terrible name.

:)
I work with a John Archibald. He is approaching hairlessness, but denies shortening his name when this shaven trek completes.
 


Trufflehound

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Aug 5, 2003
14,126
The democratic and free EU
Man of Harveys said:
Tell us that they're going to march into Strasbourg with animals dressed up in costumes when they meet. PLEASE SAY IT'S TRUE. I'll happily JOIN the Dutch Party For The Animals if they promise to do that.

The Labrador-sized Hong Kong Phooey outfits are on order as we speak.
 




Re: Re: Animals - Help Avoid their Torture!!

nail-Z-gull said:
I'm all in favour of people posting their opinions on the board as it does stimulate debate.

But this post is more like "preaching", which I think does nothing but give vegetarians a bad name.

You've made your choice, let other people make theirs.

I have, and I'm NOT a vegetarian, so have another think. It's not preaching, as I'm not suggesting everyone should cut meat out of their diet.

If ever I wonder if a thread is worth posting, I simply think about the rest of the threads on NSC, and how soon my thread will be surrounded with kiddywinky shite. :O

Alright, anyone actually got anything to offer other than the predictable critique so far? It's easy to criticise, no-brainers.
 


Commander

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Re: Re: Re: Animals - Help Avoid their Torture!!

NMH said:
I have, and I'm NOT a vegetarian, so have another think. It's not preaching, as I'm not suggesting everyone should cut meat out of their diet.

If ever I wonder if a thread is worth posting, I simply think about the rest of the threads on NSC, and how soon my thread will be surrounded with kiddywinky shite. :O

Alright, anyone actually got anything to offer other than the predictable critique so far? It's easy to criticise, no-brainers.

Perhaps you should answer some of the predictable critique first.
 


hans kraay fan club

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Man of Harveys said:
Tell us that they're going to march into Strasbourg with animals dressed up in costumes when they meet. PLEASE SAY IT'S TRUE. I'll happily JOIN the Dutch Party For The Animals if they promise to do that.

Will they have monkey jockeys, on dogs? Personally I would favour monkey jockeys on piglets, but they should be allowed freedom to choose their steeds I guess. Monkeys are people too you know.
 






Meade's Ball

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Being a vegetarian, or at least's it's opening chapter, takes a little bit of concentration, care and work.
Since when will humans do that unpaid? It is not the natural way.
I saw a documentary on brains the other month wish said that only 10% of humans have cells without the neanderthal and modern couplings that the majority thickly have. I don't think the advanced necessarily have all gone veggie as their beastly cravings have lessened, but i think it may become part of things.

I think most decisions are purely psychologically comforting though. I don't want to have blood on my lips unless it's woman i love and a time of the month she's failed to announce the gushing feeling of. I often think about the results of what i do. Never beforehand, but just after i act, so remain clad in manacles of guilt. To continue simplest, i don't eat meat or feel responsible for an easy slay.
Then again, i am still a **** in other areas, so decisions are not based on loving logic allround. Just in places i can paper.

AKA *gibber*
 


Re: Re: Re: Re: Animals - Help Avoid their Torture!!

Commander said:
Perhaps you should answer some of the predictable critique first.

Why? What makes you think your criticism is worth even a response? I haven't read one response that made me change my opinion yet!

If a single animal is kept from pain, a single one more is saved from being bred just to be pumped with hormones by bulk-farmers, a single calf does not get kept in a box because people got a little information - then a few moments of time on a website, and a million criticisms are worthwhile :thumbsup:

Anyway, at this time I'd rather post a link for local restaurants search.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vegetarian+restaurants+Brighton&btnG=Google+Search
:moo:
 
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