[Football] Ange

[peterward]

Spurs fans are savaging poor old Ange.

Seen him referred to as
"Erik Ten Ange" and
"Ange Imposter No Clue"

 

[Weststander]

Absolute disaster for the bloke. While his players let him down for the first goal, he showed no grip at all from that point onwards. I reckon a huge chunk of his credibility is gone among Spurs fans. Fair play, he’s not hiding how bad it was - his brand is based on not bullshitting and he’ll keep that up to the end

On their forum loads still adore him. Probably because they have the eternal punch bag of Danny Levy, airbrushing out their vast spend.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

Didn't see him giving us any credit. Came across as a bad loser today.

Said they deserved nothing. Sounds honest and realistic in spite of the disappointment.

 

[Insel affe]

I do wish he would make eye contact with the TV interview though. He just stares at his feet!

he‘s just longing for a land down under.

 

[Madafwo]

A few more capitulations like this and I can see (Not at all) Dirty Dan serving Ange his marching orders on Christmas Day.

 

[Flounce]

High lines and football fans don’t mix well for the managers popularity when it goes wrong do they?

 

[tedebear]

AP Does seem like a decent guy, but the sullen grumpy after match interviews are really cringey....

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Has imposter syndrome. Very Spursy.

Another very good shout.

 

[peterward]

AP Does seem like a decent guy, but the sullen grumpy after match interviews are really cringey....

I like the man, no nonsense Aussie but not that he always look at interviewer if he wins but at floor if he loses.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Hürzeler came out with new formations and tactics in the 2nd half and Ange could not cope. His 2nd half changes were absolute bollocks and the Australian could not change the dial, no matter how likeable some posters think he is. He got schooled by someone a lot younger on taking victory for granted. Fabian broke him today.

I am not a good judge of tactics, whereas you are, so I won't argue with that.

Something I did note from Fab's interview was, and correct me if I misunderstood, we tweaked it at half time, but in general it was about doing what we planned all along, but better, being sufficiently intense to make it work.

Yes, we were not caught on the break in the second half, but that was not because we abandoned a high line (I don't think we did) but because the entire game changed, and this may be largely due to us being more intense. That means intense with our (new brilliant ruthless) attacks, and with our defensive reformation when we lose the ball.

This is how Citeh play, brilliant technicians everywhere, and no pissing about. I am more than happy to be a (153.6 million) pound shop Citeh.

My bet is this. How well we do this season will be down to how well the players can stay 'at it' during a game, making life really hard for the opposition. I hope the intensity won't trigger too many injuries, albeit last time this was apparently due to RDZ's training methods rather than his playing style.

When we were promoted I never believed we could ever reach this level. We were plucky. Now we are dabbling with elite football. It will certainly go tits up occasionally, but what a time to be alive

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Magnanimous.

I didn’t notice radically different 'formations and tactics' in the second half. What I saw was Pervis coming on and instantly making that side of the pitch more fluid, with Mitoma seeming like a man suddenly liberated. Above all though was a different attitude across the pitch. More determination and 'intensity' to use that word much loved by coaches.

I don’t think Ange was 'schooled'. His side got complacent, that’s all. They were far better than us in the first, and they made the mistake of thinking they had the game sewn up. I don’t think any normal sentient being could watch that interview and not feel some simple human sympathy with the bloke.

Precisely my point (above). The players simply did what they had been told to do but, this time, properly. All about intensity.

 

[Hamilton]

Bet he felt like this on 90 minutes.

 

[LamieRobertson]

…….on TS White/Jordan show….well done Brighton but lets spend 99% of our time on what went wrong with Ange’s team…..not surprised really

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

He's an arrogant cock. Loved his post match interview, he was gutted, great watch!!!

He really is, he won't make it till Xmas

 

[jcdenton08]

I like him. There I said it. He’s alright. Rather him than Arteta.

Like many before him, he knows they’re rotten mentality wise. Mourinho said it, Conte said it, and he’s said it now.

 

[kevo]

I like him. There I said it. He’s alright. Rather him than Arteta.

Like many before him, he knows they’re rotten mentality wise. Mourinho said it, Conte said it, and he’s said it now.

Clubs don't have a mentality issue. Squads of players might have, but as the coach it's up to him to change that.

 

[jcdenton08]

Clubs don't have a mentality issue. Squads of players might have, but as the coach it's up to him to change that.

Normally I’d agree, but it’s Spurs. They’re a meme for a reason - it just keeps happening.

Mourinho went on about imposter syndrome (in so many words) and really tried with players like Alli, Bentancur and N’Dombele but just couldn’t get through to them.

Conte got them to an excellent 4th but was always going on about the ceiling, ambition, belief.

And just last season Postecoglu had his “epiphany” that something was wrong:

ATHLETIC: Postecoglou’s anger stemmed from Spurs staff attitude towards title race

Protip: don’t joke to your hyper-fixated head coach that he should throw a football match!

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“Culture” is such as massive thing and it transcends current squads/coaches and becomes a club’s DNA.

 

[5Ways Gull]

I'm in the pro Ange camp. Quite refreshing to see a manager taking full responsibility for a bad result rather than make excuses e.g. match officials etc. That cock at Forest is really pissing me off.

 

[Wozza]

 

[FatSuperman]

I like him. There I said it. He’s alright. Rather him than Arteta.

Like many before him, he knows they’re rotten mentality wise. Mourinho said it, Conte said it, and he’s said it now.

A good start at the head coach would be to never mention it at all, and instead constantly talk about how mentally strong the team is, and how they are fighters. It's the oldest trick in the book and works on toddlers, let alone adults. If everybody talks about them being chokers, they're more likely to carry on being chokers.

Obviously it's our responsibility to counter it by referring to them as chokers and Spursy at every turn.