Andy Whing on loan?

[Southover Street Seagull]

*necessity* spelling correction

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

I think the whole Harding issue has been done to death so there is no point arguing about it again. JL may not be a LB but he was still a damn site better than Harding

Yes agree with you there and he is more flexible being that if needed he can play lb or cb. Hopefully he will be more loyal tha Harding too.

 

[London Irish]

You quite clearly state above that Harding has been gone for half a season.

Oh for god's sake How could anyone forget when Harding left given how much of a song and dance was made about it at the time with the tribunal n all?

Carry on misrepresenting my words if you want.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Well, he played half a season for us at leftback in a higher league more creditably than he has done at centre-back since the Forest game. Only a closed mind pigeonholes what players can do for a team.

What the closed mind of Dean Wilkins, who knows more about the ablities of Joel Lynch that you and I will ever know. Since Wilkins took over he has continued to start Lynch at centreback. But now I have said that what are the odds he starts at leftback today?!

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Oh for god's sake How could anyone forget when Harding left given how much of a song and dance was made about it at the time with the tribunal n all?

Carry on misrepresenting my words if you want.

How am I misrepresenting your words? They are there in black and white for everyone to see. It's how you interpret them I suppose. I obviously interpreted them in a different way to how you wanted to make your point.

 

[London Irish]

You seem to think that putting a young centreback into a leftback position against Championship players was a good thing?

Yeah of course I do! It was an inspired solution to a difficult problem and a great example of how McGhee was able to adjust youth teamers to 1st team action, as Harding before. The debate about leftback ended last season once Lynch got into his stride. He showed better consistency against higher league opponents than he has in recent games against League 1 players!

 

[London Irish]

How am I misrepresenting your words? They are there in black and white for everyone to see. It's how you interpret them I suppose. I obviously interpreted them in a different way to how you wanted to make your point.

Yeah, funny that

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Yeah of course I do! It was an inspired solution to a difficult problem and a great example of how McGhee was able to adjust youth teamers to 1st team action, as Harding before. The debate about leftback ended last season once Lynch got into his stride. He showed better consistency against higher league opponents than he has in recent games against League 1 players!

It wouldn't have been a difficult problem if we had replaced Harding in June 2005 would it? The debate will go on as long as people like me and you have differing opinions on whether not replacing Harding was an error by the club management.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Yeah, funny that

Funny? No.
It's me being honest in a debate with you and admitting I had interpteted your post in a different way than you had meant it to come across.

 

[London Irish]

What the closed mind of Dean Wilkins, who knows more about the ablities of Joel Lynch that you and I will ever know. Since Wilkins took over he has continued to start Lynch at centreback. But now I have said that what are the odds he starts at leftback today?!

Yes, I'd calm down about that if I were you. We have Hinsh and Butters to come back in and Lynch may well be moved back to leftback (not today but in the coming months) if no one else can be brought in, it would be preferable to recaling Mayo I feel.

It would be different if he had been faultless and reliable at centre-back, but surely not even you would claim that, the defence has been very average recently and he has to bear some responsibility along with El Abd, Mayo and Santos.

 

[London Irish]

Funny? No.
It's me being honest in a debate with you and admitting I had interpteted your post in a different way than you had meant it to come across.

OK, fair enough.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Yes, I'd calm down about that if I were you. We have Hinsh and Butters to come back in and Lynch may well be moved back to leftback (not today but in the coming months) if no one else can be brought in, it would be preferable to recaling Mayo I feel.

It would be different if he had been faultless and reliable at centre-back, but surely not even you would claim that, the defence has been very average recently and he has to bear some responsibility along with El Abd, Mayo and Santos.

LI I agree with you!!! With Butters now possibly being on the bench Lynch could be move to LB. But I had heard that Hinsh had injured his ankle in training yesterday? I agree with you that If Wilkins can't get an expereinced LB in then Lynch is a better choice than Mayo. Sam Rents looked good against Chesterfield so maybe he will do? But given a choice I would still like to see a LB brought to the club either on loan or permanently.
I agree with you on Lynch's performances for the last few games. He missed the cutting out Wayne Allison's flick on for Chesterfield's first goal last week. Not sure if he did that well fior their second either?The main advantage with Lynch is that he is a better passer of the ball than Mayo or El-Abd.

 

[London Irish]

It wouldn't have been a difficult problem if we had replaced Harding in June 2005 would it? The debate will go on as long as people like me and you have differing opinions on whether not replacing Harding was an error by the club management.

Sure, but let's put all the facts out there for debate. Plymouth had survived in the Championship the previous season partly thanks to a loan signing at left-back called Jason Dodd. The fact he couldn't do the same for us was bad luck, and you have to take that into account.

 

[London Irish]

LI I agree with you!!! With Butters now possibly being on the bench Lynch could be move to LB. But I had heard that Hinsh had injured his ankle in training yesterday? I agree with you that If Wilkins can't get an expereinced LB in then Lynch is a better choice than Mayo. Sam Rents looked good against Chesterfield so maybe he will do? But given a choice I would still like to see a LB brought to the club either on loan or permanently.
I agree with you on Lynch's performances for the last few games. He missed the cutting out Wayne Allison's flick on for Chesterfield's first goal last week. Not sure if he did that well fior their second either?The main advantage with Lynch is that he is a better passer of the ball than Mayo or El-Abd.

I feel we could quite reasonably alternate Rents and Lynch. Rents was targeted by Millwall for his height, loads of cross-balls over his head, and that could be a problem for him in some games, as it has proved for El Abd. But Rents is a gifted footballer who seems to have every other aspect of his game running smoothly so he will do fine in many games.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

Sure, but let's put all the facts out there for debate. Plymouth had survived in the Championship the previous season partly thanks to a loan signing at left-back called Jason Dodd. The fact he couldn't do the same for us was bad luck, and you have to take that into account.

Yes it was bad luck about Dodd, I feel it was a great shame that we never saw him to his full potential. Although I thought that the few games he played for us were at RB not LB, but I maybe wrong. I think personally Dodd was bought as a untility defender as he could play anywhere across the back four.

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

I feel we could quite reasonably alternate Rents and Lynch. Rents was targeted by Millwall for his height, loads of cross-balls over his head, and that could be a problem for him in some games, as it has proved for El Abd. But Rents is a gifted footballer who seems to have every other aspect of his game running smoothly so he will do fine in many games.

What I liked about Rents against Chesterfield was his eagerness to get forward and wanting the ball from other players. His height maybe a problem but nothing lots of practise and coaching can't sort out with regards to heading the ball. There are lots of fullbacks who are short, take Gary Neville, he isn't a giant is he?!

 

[Icy Gull]

When McGhee moved players out of position he was abused, velvet bags and other bollock spring to mind. I heard Martin O'Neil being questioned about doing the same thing a couple of weeks ago, can't recall who the player/s was/were. Point is he stated they were professionals and they should be able to adapt and it did them good for them to see what was required in alternative positions. Didn't hear too many Magoo, velvet bag type quotes, could of course be that his players CAN adapt which says something for the quality of players McGhee was working with, which few take into account imo.

Virgo and Lynch were two that worked, Hart hasn't done too bad either, shortsighted to have blamed MM for all those who couldn't adapt. He should of course have signed specialist players and the fact that he couldn't was the problem, his, the boards, or the Withdean factor, who knows?

 

[Southover Street Seagull]

We will never know the real problem behind signing players under McGhee. As you know it's closed shop in football and a lot of the real facts are never made known. My guess is that it was a combination of McGhee, the board and Withdean.

 

[Dave the OAP]

It's Sunday and Dave is making personal jibes at LI -like every other day of the week you complete humbug

reel em in

 

[Trigger]

reel em in

Should change your name to Dave The Fisherman.