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[Albion] Andy Naylor should be renamed…



jackalbion

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Aug 30, 2011
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I've heard he is always right :shrug:

Anyway, aren't you a needy bunch - this obsession with what pundits, "experts" and their grandmas thinks about this or that.
EDIT - didn’t realise this was first posted about 2 weeks ago, have a great Monday everyone
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,066
I watched it live from a slightly worse, but not dissimilar, vantage point to what AN had and it was a clear foul all day long.
We could go round in circles all day, but I was about 100 yards away from it and I wasn't convinced. 🤷‍♂️
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,066
He was in the press box, it was very obvious from the numerous replays on the screen there that it was a penalty. I know because I am sat behind the press box. He is a dick if he then said it wasn’t a penalty. The replays are instant on the press box screens.

He left at the end of the game with a big grin on his face. The guy has zero allegiance to the Albion.

No excuse for him suggesting it wasn’t a penalty given that he had access to the footage within seconds.
'The guy has zero allegiance to the Albion.'


Why should he?
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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'The guy has zero allegiance to the Albion.'


Why should he?
More to the point why do you think it’s fine to say no penalty just because you thought it wasn’t from where you were sitting, totally ignoring the fact that Naylor sits immediately behind the screen that every other person who had the same view as him on numerous replays, shown straight afterwards, says was a nailed on penaty?

Just admit you were wrong, it’s not that embarrassing is it?

I am stating a fact re Naylor’s allegiance and not suggesting he should be Albion through and through, more that he appears to have a problem being objective as he seems to revel in being controversial. Not a good look for a man whose job is reporting on the same team every game. Maybe they should give him another club to report on and find someone who’ll just report the facts on Albion games without the snide digs he specialises in.
 
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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,066
More to the point why do you think it’s fine to say no penalty just because you thought it wasn’t from where you were sitting, totally ignoring the fact that Naylor sits immediately behind the screen that every other person who had the same view as him on numerous replays, shown straight afterwards, says was a nailed on penaty?

Just admit you were wrong, it’s not that embarrassing is it?
I was merely replying to my fellow GB about not thinking it was a penalty when it was right in front of me, compared with where he was, over the other side of the stadium, that's all :shrug:

I'm sure if you asked people from both East and West stands you wouldn't got complete agreement!

Having seen the footage, yes, I was wrong. Nothing to be embarrassed about, no - I'm always happy to say sorry - but I hope it makes you feel better?!
 
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Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
More to the point why do you think it’s fine to say no penalty just because you thought it wasn’t from where you were sitting, totally ignoring the fact that Naylor sits immediately behind the screen that every other person who had the same view as him on numerous replays, shown straight afterwards, says was a nailed on penaty?

Just admit you were wrong, it’s not that embarrassing is it?

I am stating a fact re Naylor’s allegiance and not suggesting he should be Albion through and through, more that he appears to have a problem being objective as he seems to revel in being controversial. Not a good look for a man whose job is reporting on the same team every game. Maybe they should give him another club to report on and find someone who’ll just report the facts on Albion games without the snide digs he specialises in.
His job is to be controversial, because it gives him attention, and attention results in subscriptions, which is what keeps The Athletic alive and him in his job.
That is how it works in the attention economy.
 


Cheeky Monkey

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Jul 17, 2003
23,884
His job is to be controversial, because it gives him attention, and attention results in subscriptions, which is what keeps The Athletic alive and him in his job.
That is how it works in the attention economy.
Indeed ‘Swanny’ a tool used by the lowest common denominator (TalkSport and The Daily Mail) right up to the ‘heights’ (cough) of the BBC’s online content.

What the hell are you doing awake at this time?
 


Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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Millard, disgusting individual.
Piltdown it takes all sorts to make a world, there were facets of Tony’s life that weren’t very attractive, but deep down his heart was in the right place.

Im sure the wives of girlfriends of sections of NSC think I was a bit of **** to embark on a clandestine relationship with a woman 16 years my junior behind Mrs H’s back, but these thing happen, when it came to sex and recreation Tony had a different playbook 🤷‍♂️
 




Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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His job is to be controversial, because it gives him attention, and attention results in subscriptions, which is what keeps The Athletic alive and him in his job.
That is how it works in the attention economy.
But the point of The Athletic is that people would pay for quality copy. It was launched as the antithesis of clickbait.

I'm not sure how many of the original writers are still at The Athletic, because I don't subscribe. But certainly I've seen that David Ornstien is there, one of the most highly regarded writers in sport. Daniel Taylor is a four time Football Journalist of the Year. Amy Lawrence is one of the best female writers in sport, full stop. The idea is quality.

Unfortunately Naylor has come from The Argus, a clickbait obsessed sub-tabloid edited in Southampton that's about as relevant as prog rock in a disco. It's all cats up trees and the seedy world of local politics. So, to make people go to its ad riddled shitfest of a front page they have to use clickbait, and Andy Naylor became a master of it, usually by attacking Brighton fans, but sometimes just over egging tweets.

He's stuck in his clickbaity ways now (mostly) and seems to see arguments with fans as a way to drive subscriptions, which is, frankly, nuts, though it certainly used to drive traffic to The Argus.

His transfer window tweets, before you whatabout, are, for some reason, the opposite of this. I'd guess that his relationship with the club's media team may rely on this, but I couldn't possibly say for sure, it's just my opinion.
 


jcdenton08

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Oct 17, 2008
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But the point of The Athletic is that people would pay for quality copy. It was launched as the antithesis of clickbait.

I'm not sure how many of the original writers are still at The Athletic, because I don't subscribe. But certainly I've seen that David Ornstien is there, one of the most highly regarded writers in sport. Daniel Taylor is a four time Football Journalist of the Year. Amy Lawrence is one of the best female writers in sport, full stop. The idea is quality.

Unfortunately Naylor has come from The Argus, a clickbait obsessed sub-tabloid edited in Southampton that's about as relevant as prog rock in a disco. It's all cats up trees and the seedy world of local politics. So, to make people go to its ad riddled shitfest of a front page they have to use clickbait, and Andy Naylor became a master of it, usually by attacking Brighton fans, but sometimes just over egging tweets.

He's stuck in his clickbaity ways now (mostly) and seems to see arguments with fans as a way to drive subscriptions, which is, frankly, nuts, though it certainly used to drive traffic to The Argus.

His transfer window tweets, before you whatabout, are, for some reason, the opposite of this. I'd guess that his relationship with the club's media team may rely on this, but I couldn't possibly say for sure, it's just my opinion.
Masterpiece of a post.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Piltdown it takes all sorts to make a world, there were facets of Tony’s life that weren’t very attractive, but deep down his heart was in the right place.

Im sure the wives of girlfriends of sections of NSC think I was a bit of **** to embark on a clandestine relationship with a woman 16 years my junior behind Mrs H’s back, but these thing happen, when it came to sex and recreation Tony had a different playbook 🤷‍♂️
I knew him for a number of years as he was part of the cricketing fraternity I was in. You'd have to go very deep into his heart to find anything. He abused his position plain and simple. I'll not go any further and will leave it there.
 




Tyrone Biggums

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Jun 25, 2006
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His job is to be controversial, because it gives him attention, and attention results in subscriptions, which is what keeps The Athletic alive and him in his job.
That is how it works in the attention economy.

How it works is people need to really like you to get them to hand over their money.

This dickhead does the opposite, he costs his company potential Albion fan subscriptions because he's such a wanker towards the clubs fans.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
But the point of The Athletic is that people would pay for quality copy. It was launched as the antithesis of clickbait.

I'm not sure how many of the original writers are still at The Athletic, because I don't subscribe. But certainly I've seen that David Ornstien is there, one of the most highly regarded writers in sport. Daniel Taylor is a four time Football Journalist of the Year. Amy Lawrence is one of the best female writers in sport, full stop. The idea is quality.

Unfortunately Naylor has come from The Argus, a clickbait obsessed sub-tabloid edited in Southampton that's about as relevant as prog rock in a disco. It's all cats up trees and the seedy world of local politics. So, to make people go to its ad riddled shitfest of a front page they have to use clickbait, and Andy Naylor became a master of it, usually by attacking Brighton fans, but sometimes just over egging tweets.

He's stuck in his clickbaity ways now (mostly) and seems to see arguments with fans as a way to drive subscriptions, which is, frankly, nuts, though it certainly used to drive traffic to The Argus.

His transfer window tweets, before you whatabout, are, for some reason, the opposite of this. I'd guess that his relationship with the club's media team may rely on this, but I couldn't possibly say for sure, it's just my opinion.
Sure... that was probably one of the points, perhaps partly even genuinely so.

But at some point The Athletic will have to stop operating on $50m losses each year and the most common way to sort this out is to sack people who aren't profitable. And surely a lot of people working for The Athletic are fully aware that the pressure is on. Some of those you mention might carry their own weight, some others may not. Its not exactly implausible that having a full-time journalist covering Brighton might not be a great business decision in 2022, when pretty much all information is available for free anyway.
 


chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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Would love to see a Vlog of Naylor and Chailey Jem in the same room watching the game like Arsenal Fans TV and see who cracks and makes a negative comment first

I was listening to five live the guy said all those in the press box agreed it was a pen, well apart from our local journo. He’s getting really bitter and twisted about the Albion since his bum chum Potter left.
Naylor didn't even say what you're both getting upset about and dragging me into it for some reason. He said he understood why ref didn't give it on the pitch in real time. But that VAR should have given it.
 




LamieRobertson

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Feb 3, 2008
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Naylor didn't even say what you're both getting upset about and dragging me into it for some reason. He said he understood why ref didn't give it on the pitch in real time. But that VAR should have given it.
He also said this which doesn’t quite tie in with what you’ve said

“Wouldn't say it was clear and obvious and, as the ref didn't give it, I'm not surprised the decision stood after VAR check.”
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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Naylor didn't even say what you're both getting upset about and dragging me into it for some reason. He said he understood why ref didn't give it on the pitch in real time. But that VAR should have given it.
So he never posted that it wasn't a penalty in his opinion? I was at the game so was just picking up on that in my posts on this.
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,066
Are some people simply not happy if they don't have someone/something to moan about or hold a grudge against?

I think this is why I struggle with social media. Ultimately I don't CARE about such inane things such as what a journalist has or hasn't written (or even posted on Twitter) – or the way it could be interpreted. What difference does it REALLY make to your life, apart from seemingly annoying you? Life's too short for that kind of shit.

Maybe I'm the odd one?
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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Are some people simply not happy if they don't have someone/something to moan about or hold a grudge against?

I think this is why I struggle with social media. Ultimately I don't CARE about such inane things such as what a journalist has or hasn't written (or even posted on Twitter) – or the way it could be interpreted. What difference does it REALLY make to your life, apart from seemingly annoying you? Life's too short for that kind of shit.

Maybe I'm the odd one?
From my perspective the annoyance came from watching a game, in which we weren't very good, but were absolutely robbed of the chance to level the scores. Not helped by going to the Uni car park an hour after the game finished to find it still log jammed. Once I did get out the traffic to Worthing was heavy. I missed the start of the Grand Prix and was already very pissed off. I then log onto here to find Naylor ALLEGEDLY (it seems now) suggesting that he didn't think it was a pen.

It WAS worth getting upset about to me and I did care :smile:
 




Biscuit

Native Creative
Jul 8, 2003
22,325
Brighton
If I was offered The Athletic for free I wouldn't take it until Naylor's gone tbh. Cannot abide his smug, holier-than-thou attitude toward the fans.

He's obviously fed transfer news by the club, if they gave that to Brian Owen (and the local paper) Naylor would offer nothing imo.
 




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