Yes, nothing to do with the salary increase and reduced workload, I'm sure.
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[Albion] Andy Naylor is leaving
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Yes, nothing to do with the salary increase and reduced workload, I'm sure.
London Irish
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Lol good lord, our entire system of business enterprise is based on taking market share away from local business rivals. Have you ever taken an Uber? Ordered anything from Amazon?
London Irish
Well-known member
Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ;9019558 said:
The Argus is owned by Americans and has been for a number of years now?
What happened first ? Newsquest workforce reduction or The Athletic recruitment drive ? Genuine question as I do not know
The redundancy issue was resolved during the last season and did not involve AN.
Naylor’s tone and attitude to the fans on Twitter seems to have changed now he needs the subscribers. Never seen him interact so pleasantly with Albion fans.
Nasty.
If I was to rely on the Athletic though, I still wouldn’t know we’d signed Maupay 24 hours on.
Not Andy Naylor
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I believe one of Mike Legg or Brian Owen was for the chop so AN walking the plank not only saved one of them but allowed them to take on Adam Stenning, a graduate of the University of Brighton's sports journalism degree course. So from that point of view everybody wins.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
When this goes tits up there will be a lot of journalists looking for work
AZ Gull
@SeagullsAcademy @seagullsacademy.bsky.social
They're not claiming to report day-to-day news/activity though, are they? Isn't that the whole point - the journalists have been recruited to write longer, more in-depth articles and are able to do so because they don't have that requirement of generating content every day and breaking news.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Yes. I would see the Athletic output as complimentary to the day to day output of the nationals and local media outlets. A sort of wider scope 442 type articles.
AZ Gull
@SeagullsAcademy @seagullsacademy.bsky.social
Indeed.
AZ Gull
@SeagullsAcademy @seagullsacademy.bsky.social
Surely something similar will be happening/has happened at tens of newspaper offices up and down the country. Whilst The Athletic may be very disruptive to the local newspaper business, it has also presented a huge one-off opportunity for newer/up-and-coming sports journalists nationwide.
Machiavelli
Well-known member
It’s the law of the jungle. Innit
Having read a couple of bits and bobs of Naylor's new stuff I've got to admit I am a little put off by it.
He's clearly a very good reporter, his work on the Albion has kept the Argus ahead of the curve and has been a valuable source of information. However, is his style suited to long form? If you compare it to something like this https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/article/setting-sun from The Blizzard (which made me cry) you have got to say that Naylor's short paragraphs of two Hollywood statements comes up painfully short. It is all very tabloid-y and perhaps this will work for an American audience that doesn't have that emotional investment in the clubs themselves but for me, I don't want to pay a subscription fee for what is essentially Argus coverage with a vaguer focus.
He's clearly a very good reporter, his work on the Albion has kept the Argus ahead of the curve and has been a valuable source of information. However, is his style suited to long form? If you compare it to something like this https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/article/setting-sun from The Blizzard (which made me cry) you have got to say that Naylor's short paragraphs of two Hollywood statements comes up painfully short. It is all very tabloid-y and perhaps this will work for an American audience that doesn't have that emotional investment in the clubs themselves but for me, I don't want to pay a subscription fee for what is essentially Argus coverage with a vaguer focus.
Not Andy Naylor
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I certainly hope so. But more likely a postponement of the next round of redundancies ...
Not Andy Naylor
Well-known member
Once the season begins there'll be more to comment on and have opinions about. Give the guy a chance.
B-right-on
Living the dream
The Argus has been cutting back for years. They had what, 3 editions a day and located right in the centre of Brighton 30 odd years ago. Moved off up to Hollingbury with a trance of lay offs. Then must be 10 years ago they closed down their entire Brighton print works and moved to Soton i think. Mate of mine was an electrical engineer, kept the presses running and he got the shove then.
Mr Banana
Tedious chump
They've moved back to central Brighton now. But it was for cost-cutting reasons.
I hope this whole thing doesn't lead to more personal brand-based journalism. There's always room for the personal but it's the stories wot matter, writers are a vital but incidental part of that. I can foresee anyone with delusions of importance and an iPhone getting louder on social in the hope of catching the next big contract. Grump grump
Well this is the problem with writing behind a paywall isn't it? There isn't room to give him a chance, you can only read so much without committing to a subscription so that taster bit has to really draw you in.
My point, though perhaps made a little harshly, was that his work as a first responding reporter has always been top. The news is on the button and communicates exactly what is going on. However, The Athletic appears to be focused less on breaking news and more on long-form, in-depth pieces. This is obviously newer territory for Naylor, and perhaps I will be wrong, but from the little evidence of what's in front of the paywall and his "Nailed-it" comment pieces, I would need some convincing that The Athletic was offering Brighton fans something worth the entry fee.