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[Food] Amex Sausage Rolls



clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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I do because we were told by the EHO in Guildford that chicken should NEVER be reheated. The pies should be made completely and sold hot or cooked completely left to cool and then sold cold. Hence we stopped selling chicken pies and only did so as part of a special when we knew we would sell them all after wife had made them. Apparently it was all to do with bacteria forming in reheated chicken, and the pies do not get to a high enough temperature on the 2nd heating to kill that bacteria, well thats what they told us.

The meat in a chicken pie is always going to be reheated.

Firstly the chicken is roasted.

Secondly you aren't going to put a hot filling into a pie case.

It will melt the butter prior to going in the oven. When in the oven the heat causes the butter to release steam with creates the rise.
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
25,991
This sounds epic!

Soooo... how long do you cook them for?! Genuinely creating a note on your suggestions for the next batch... :D

Depends on the size.

If you want a good idea.

2 x packs of six sausages = 2 sheets of ready rolled pastry.

But the pastry sheet into three equal size along the SHORT edge. Put it straight back in the fridge.

Divide the sausage meat into 6

I roll the logs up in cling film (easier to keep them even) then refrigerate for about 30 mins as well. Egg + breadcrumbs (you will be surprised how much breadcrumbs they take) then roll in the pastry.

Should have enough to just pinch the pastry together.

Irrespective of LENGTH - these should take 25 mins at most.

170 degree (c) and when you see the juices running out from the meat (obviously not that much with the breadcrumb tip) they will be done.

It's also worth getting them into a container as above. I know it sounds really odd - but the pastry steams a bit and goes chewy. It's the authentic street sausage roll trick.

You can egg wash as well - but go 50%/50% with milk to stop them burning.

KEEP EVERYTHING COLD / PRE-HEAT OVEN.

Cook on parchment paper to stop them sticking.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
The meat in a chicken pie is always going to be reheated.

Firstly the chicken is roasted.

Secondly you aren't going to put a hot filling into a pie case.

It will melt the butter prior to going in the oven. When in the oven the heat causes the butter to release steam with creates the rise.

That is the point made by the EHO it should be cooked completely and eaten immediately if required hot or left to get cold and eaten cold which is preferable from the bacteria angle.
 


Hiney

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Jul 5, 2003
19,396
Penrose, Cornwall
That is the point made by the EHO it should be cooked completely and eaten immediately if required hot or left to get cold and eaten cold which is preferable from the bacteria angle.

I bet the Winter evenings simply fly by in your house.

Jesus!
 
















Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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It wouldnt have been had TLO not stated in his usual superior ' I know everything' manner that they are not reheated when obviously they are in the making or transported to The Amex hot.

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dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Burgess Hill
That is google not the EHO who told us we couldnt and shouldnt. In a pub we were controlled by the EHO not google tax dodgers.

That's like blaming the library for something you disagree with in a book.......................

Maybe the EHO just didn't like the way your establishment was doing things. Reheating is typically OK as long as it's chilled quickly after cooking, stored properly, and reheated to the right temperature throughout.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
We are talking reheating to serve immediately not to cool and store. My wife meticulously took the temperature of everything she reheated and recorded it in the book as stipulated by EHO. She also stored the goods and recorded them as instructed, as the lady from Guildford Council would allow nothing different and religiously checked the book. Perhaps the attitude to reheating chicken has changed as the egg situation has since Edwina Currie.
 






BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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Haywards Heath
I find that very hard to believe. Surely not?

Most definitely, she was an officious cow. I cant remember her name but as I said she has probably retired by now.

Just to keep her happy we used to get an umemployed customer to paint the kitchen cupboards a different colour every 6 months for the cost of a few pints and a pot of paint it was a cheap investment.
 


SIMMO SAYS

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Jul 31, 2012
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Most definitely, she was an officious cow. I cant remember her name but as I said she has probably retired by now.

Just to keep her happy we used to get an umemployed customer to paint the kitchen cupboards a different colour every 6 months for the cost of a few pints and a pot of paint it was a cheap investment.

:moo:
 








beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,065
That is the point made by the EHO it should be cooked completely and eaten immediately if required hot or left to get cold and eaten cold which is preferable from the bacteria angle.

you need to let this go, regular practice in many establishments is to reheat cooked chicken and other foods, either by microwave or griddle.
 




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