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[News] American mass shootings
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Seagull58
In the Algarve
A couple of days.Seems this is over now. Thoughts and prayers etc. See you all in a few weeks for the next one.
- Oct 12, 2022
- 2,689
Bigger, better guns.
nickbrighton
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- Feb 19, 2016
- 2,129
So we are less than 3 weeks in to the new year and the latest is the 39th mass shooting in just 24 days, according to Gun Violence Archive.
39 incidents where 4 or more have been shot.
Totals for the year so far (TWENTY THREE Days and a couple of hours) of gun violence
2801 people Dead
2134 injured
21 Dead children aged 11 or under
99 Teenagers Dead
The website above has a " past 72 hours" of shooting incidents it runs to TWELVE pages of 22 incidents a page
The numbers are staggering, at the current rate over 45 500 dead by the end of the year
Thats one and a half times the capacity of the AMEX,
And yet its barley even news anymore, no one is surprised, and whats more, no one is surprised that no one is surprised.
I can not think of a more damming indicment of a broken country than the fact that no one cares about the mass slaughter of so many children
All this from the self proclaimed "Greatest Country in the World"
People on here say its because there isnt the political will to do anything about it- that is wrong, it becomes the Political will when the popular will is there. IF the American people really wanted to do something about it they would
The fact that this goes on getting worse year after year and the "Thoughts and Prayers" is the only thing to comeout of it tells us all we need to know about the public and political will for change-there isnt any
39 incidents where 4 or more have been shot.
Totals for the year so far (TWENTY THREE Days and a couple of hours) of gun violence
2801 people Dead
2134 injured
21 Dead children aged 11 or under
99 Teenagers Dead
The website above has a " past 72 hours" of shooting incidents it runs to TWELVE pages of 22 incidents a page
The numbers are staggering, at the current rate over 45 500 dead by the end of the year
Thats one and a half times the capacity of the AMEX,
And yet its barley even news anymore, no one is surprised, and whats more, no one is surprised that no one is surprised.
I can not think of a more damming indicment of a broken country than the fact that no one cares about the mass slaughter of so many children
All this from the self proclaimed "Greatest Country in the World"
People on here say its because there isnt the political will to do anything about it- that is wrong, it becomes the Political will when the popular will is there. IF the American people really wanted to do something about it they would
The fact that this goes on getting worse year after year and the "Thoughts and Prayers" is the only thing to comeout of it tells us all we need to know about the public and political will for change-there isnt any
Justice
Dangerous Idiot
Can you imagine anything so stupid as popping into your local Asda for the weekly shop and throwing in the trolley a couple of hand guns and an assault rifle? It’s madness.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
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I am still delighted that my reaction whenever I see police etc with ACTUAL guns is (at 36) is still one of feeling slightly odd. It's a killing machine.
If I lost that feeling of "oh blimey, guns" then I'd be worried. I want the human element to always realise they are MENTAL things.
Like mentioned above, the concept of just BUYING ONE is unfathomable
If I lost that feeling of "oh blimey, guns" then I'd be worried. I want the human element to always realise they are MENTAL things.
Like mentioned above, the concept of just BUYING ONE is unfathomable
I don't spend time looking for a solution to their problem, but that sounds like a sensible way forward.
FatSuperman
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- Feb 25, 2016
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And if the guns are used in a shooting, then the insurers have to pay out a set fee. However many million dollars per death, etc. This forces the sensible gun owners (?) to properly secure their weapons from being stolen / used without permission.
Massive fine if you have no insurance, and for new purchases, you have to have insurance before you buy a gun.
Insurance would be insanely expensive, given the risk insurers would be taken, so new sales would diminish rapidly. It would be crazy hard to audit / enforce the insurance part.
Massive fine if you have no insurance, and for new purchases, you have to have insurance before you buy a gun.
Insurance would be insanely expensive, given the risk insurers would be taken, so new sales would diminish rapidly. It would be crazy hard to audit / enforce the insurance part.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,766
If they won't take far simpler more straightforward steps than this, then I'm afraid I can't see this working. It's simply that some very powerful people in the USA value their right to sell and carry guns over the lives of innocent children. And it appears that they have enough money and power to 'persuade' sufficient terminally naïve and stupid voters to support them
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Seagull58
In the Algarve
38 mass shootings in the first 23 days of 2023. The 215 number is massively incorrect.
Edit: 215 may be the number of people killed or killed/injured.
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herecomesaregular
We're in the pipe, 5 by 5
America is a freakshow.Why buy one when you can take one with you to get a burger?
As a friendly reminder, not all of us in America are gun-toting whack jobs. A majority of Americans support better and sensible (at least compared to current state) gun legislation, but those against it fund a lobby strong enough to fight any attempts to implement any of that legislation.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,197
Democracy in action. It's so sad.
portlock seagull
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- Jul 28, 2003
- 17,777
Which is why you’re basically *ucked. No amount of rational debate, applied logic, sense, or even legislation, will undo an ingrained culture that’s centuries old. Good luck, hope you and yours remain safe. As an aside, and I can speak for several friends too, I won’t travel to States anymore as a holiday destination because of gun violence. And Policing. And Trump. Well at least he’s no longer in power….oh, hang on a sec…
It’s like the States needs a new PR agency because the last decade has been astronomically bad-for in the International press.
junior
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METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
- 6,823
Indeed. Surely you'd get them from Tesco so you could use your club card!
I worked in NY state for a few months in 1992 (near White Plains). I had a gun pointed at me twice: once by a security guard who burst into my company owned house ( on campus) because my visiting girlfriend pulled the panic cord (I didn't even know it was 
) instead of the light switch, and the guard assumed I was the intruder 
. Secondly, with some work colleagues, our car broke down and we approached the only nearby place that might have a phone to call the hotel...the garage owner assumed we were going to rob him (!!!!) pushed HIS panic button and two minutes later two cops jumped out of a squad car and pointed guns at our heads. One false move and you're done...
It's woven into their society too deeply...if in doubt point a gun FFS.
) instead of the light switch, and the guard assumed I was the intruder . Secondly, with some work colleagues, our car broke down and we approached the only nearby place that might have a phone to call the hotel...the garage owner assumed we were going to rob him (!!!!) pushed HIS panic button and two minutes later two cops jumped out of a squad car and pointed guns at our heads. One false move and you're done...It's woven into their society too deeply...if in doubt point a gun FFS.