America caused Japanese Tsunami

[dingodan]

you might like to understand the requirements for HAARP to create earthquakes. assuming its technically and technologocally possible, it would require staggering amounts of power. where from? does HAARP have a secret multi-GigaWatt powerplant near its antenna? it can't channel power it doesn't have.

As far as I am aware there is no required amount of power to produce an earthquake. A HAARP induced earthquake would be a result a portion of the ionosphere being lifted into space and being allowed to drop back into it's original position, which is something which they are able to do, and are doing already.

 

[GreersElbow]

And why would the U.S.A cause a natural disaster on an ally? They have a fairly important bilateral trade agreement, this impact would greatly effect the U.S economy, so it wouldn't have a positive effect...

 

[Leighgull]

Japan deserved the tsunami for murdering dolphins and whales.
They still resumed that activity when the charitable donations poured in.

They should get another disaster for being shit heads

Yes. I follow the logic there.

Japanese school kids deserve to die because some fishermen like Dolphin for tea.

You utter f***ing Mong.

 

[Leighgull]

As far as I am aware there is no required amount of power to produce an earthquake. A HAARP induced earthquake would be a result a portion of the ionosphere being lifted into space and being allowed to drop back into it's original position, which is something which they are able to do, and are doing already.

You might want to read that back Dingo. You sound like a mental case.

 

[The Truth]

You might want to read that back Dingo. You sound like a mental case.

You're still saying the same old shit, that's what's mental.

 

[The Truth]

Technically it is possible to create an earthquake but you would need to be a seismologist. In theory there are specific places along a fault line where pressure builds up, if you create a down force next to the fault line where pressure is likely to be, it can create a huge earthquake anywhere along that fault line, by using the built up pressure. You don't need the large amount of power 'beorhthelm' is suggesting.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

What a load of badly put together bollox

 

[The Truth]

What a load of badly put together bollox

prove how it's not possible then? No youtube videos either!

 

[dingodan]

You might want to read that back Dingo. You sound like a mental case.

Says more about you than it does about me.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

prove how it's not possible then? No youtube videos either!

I don't have to. That entire link is complete garbage.... Hitler had the h-bomb ffs.

 

[Leighgull]

You're still saying the same old shit, that's what's mental.

I don't remember coming on a football forum and claiming that lifting up the earths atmosphere and dropping it back down again is a sensible method of inducing a tsunami. I must have missed that bit during physics O level. All I remember is a lot of boring stuff about laws and that.
If thinking that someone who spouts such ideas is either at the cutting edge of Einsteinian theory or completely f***ing hatstand then I'm guilty as charged.

Anyway. Carry on. This should be epic.

 

[dingodan]

I don't remember coming on a football forum and claiming that lifting up the earths atmosphere and dropping it back down again is a sensible method of inducing a tsunami. I must have missed that bit during physics O level. All I remember is a lot of boring stuff about laws and that.
If thinking that someone who spouts such ideas is either at the cutting edge of Einsteinian theory or completely f***ing hatstand then I'm guilty as charged.

Anyway. Carry on. This should be epic.

It's not a method of inducing a tsunami. It's a method of deflecting missiles and experimenting with/studying the ionosphere. Using this method can result in earthquakes, and where an earthquake takes place under the sea floor a tsunami can result.

 

[beorhthelm]

As far as I am aware there is no required amount of power to produce an earthquake. A HAARP induced earthquake would be a result a portion of the ionosphere being lifted into space and being allowed to drop back into it's original position, which is something which they are able to do, and are doing already.

so how do propose you "lift" the ionosphere without any power? you cant just go push around the atmosphere with no engergy input. but then how exactly do you think they "lift" anything from underneath. and how does lifting (very thin) air and dropping it impact on the earth's crust below? its like saying one could stand on a patio and blow down to make the slab crack. they can heat up a bit of ionosphere, that about it (which give weather manipulation at least a credible possibility, though still a big power issue for create hurricans as some like to suggest)

Technically it is possible to create an earthquake but you would need to be a seismologist. In theory there are specific places along a fault line where pressure builds up, if you create a down force next to the fault line where pressure is likely to be, it can create a huge earthquake anywhere along that fault line, by using the built up pressure. You don't need the large amount of power 'beorhthelm' is suggesting.

where do you think pressure and force come from with out some form of energy?

 

[Woodchip]

As far as I am aware there is no required amount of power to produce an earthquake. A HAARP induced earthquake would be a result a portion of the ionosphere being lifted into space and being allowed to drop back into it's original position, which is something which they are able to do, and are doing already.

Canterbury Quake Live


Here is a list of some of the quakes that took place in Canterbury on the 4th September 2010. Notice the big one at the bottom. 671 kilo tonnes of energy!!! That is competely in contrast to you "there is no required amount of power to produce an earthquake". You make things move without using a lot of power.

Oh, and this was a Strike-slip quake, so you can't "drop the atmosphere" on one side of it to cause the quake.

About Earthquakes - The Basics of Earthquakes

 

[dingodan]

Canterbury Quake Live


Here is a list of some of the quakes that took place in Canterbury on the 4th September 2010. Notice the big one at the bottom. 671 kilo tonnes of energy!!! That is competely in contrast to you "there is no required amount of power to produce an earthquake". You make things move without using a lot of power.

Oh, and this was a Strike-slip quake, so you can't "drop the atmosphere" on one side of it to cause the quake.

About Earthquakes - The Basics of Earthquakes

1) No required amount of energy to produce an earthquake - with HAARP. Only the required energy to raise the ionosphere.

2) 671 kilo tonnes of energy - produced by the earthquake, not used to create it.

3) And the relationship between stresses in the ionosphere and earthquakes is well understood.

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Plan for quake 'warning system'

 

[vegster]

I don't remember coming on a football forum and claiming that lifting up the earths atmosphere and dropping it back down again is a sensible method of inducing a tsunami. I must have missed that bit during physics O level. All I remember is a lot of boring stuff about laws and that.
If thinking that someone who spouts such ideas is either at the cutting edge of Einsteinian theory or completely f***ing hatstand then I'm guilty as charged.

Anyway. Carry on. This should be epic.

I'm with you, I don't get how lifting and dropping a patch of atmosphere with such little density can cause earthquakes in rocks which have a much higher density several Kilometers away. ?..... unless its a kind of Homepathic effect, you drop a thin weak bit and it creates a much bigger magnitude 8 earthquake underground. I know, it's tosh but that's possibly the only explanation... Hang on, why am I bothering to help this bunkum ? It's easier to nail strawberry jelly to the ceiling

 

[dingodan]

so how do propose you "lift" the ionosphere without any power? you cant just go push around the atmosphere with no engergy input. but then how exactly do you think they "lift" anything from underneath. and how does lifting (very thin) air and dropping it impact on the earth's crust below? its like saying one could stand on a patio and blow down to make the slab crack. they can heat up a bit of ionosphere, that about it (which give weather manipulation at least a credible possibility, though still a big power issue for create hurricans as some like to suggest)

HAARP uses energy, I said it did not need a particular amount of energy to directly cause an earthquake.

HAARP lifts the ionosphere, that is what it does. Do some research.

The ionosphere is not "very thin air" it is a layer of electrically charged particles.

"its like saying one could stand on a patio and blow down to make the slab crack." - This is why you annoy me. Yes you are correct that is exactly how it sounds unless you make the effort to understand the science. The earth is round, and that is like saying you can stand on the ceiling, Until you expand your understanding to include gravity.

 

[The Truth]

I don't remember coming on a football forum and claiming that lifting up the earths atmosphere and dropping it back down again is a sensible method of inducing a tsunami. I must have missed that bit during physics O level. All I remember is a lot of boring stuff about laws and that.
If thinking that someone who spouts such ideas is either at the cutting edge of Einsteinian theory or completely f***ing hatstand then I'm guilty as charged.

Anyway. Carry on. This should be epic.

What should be Epic? Going on a thread to type out 'nutjob' or 'mental case' a million more times?

 

[beorhthelm]

3) And the relationship between stresses in the ionosphere and earthquakes is well understood.

you can surely grasp the asymmetry of this relationship? some monumental pressures creating detectable electostatic "signals" one way does not mean some electrostatic signal creates monumental pressures the other. if you want to trigger an earthquake you are going to need to shift the earth, the amount of energy required is at least in the order of magnitude that a natural one contains.

The ionosphere is not "very thin air" it is a layer of electrically charged particles.

what do you think those particles are? air is just another term for them. ok then plasma to be completely correct. anyway, i see you aren't toying with the idea, you are hook, line, sinkered on it being an actual fact that this is possible with no problems and contradiction whatsoever, so i give up and leave you to the special/secret science.

 

[The Truth]

Hang on, why am I bothering to help this bunkum ? It's easier to nail strawberry jelly to the ceiling

You've got a padded ceiling though.