[Politics] Amber Rudd used the word “coloured”

[Kalimantan Gull]

Edited for accuracy.

Please change that, I don't appreciate it

 

[Triggaaar]

What actually is the difference between ‘woman of colour’ and ‘coloured woman’?

'Coloured' used to be used as a derogatory term for black people, so it still has negative connotations. A person of colour refers to someone who's not white, and is not derogatory.

 

[wellquickwoody]

'Coloured' used to be used as a derogatory term for black people, so it still has negative connotations. A person of colour refers to someone who's not white, and is not derogatory.

I stand by my original explanation being the more factually correct.

 

[Triggaaar]

I stand by my original explanation being the more factually correct.

But what's your point? Are you just trying to stay away from what you perceive to be political correctness gone mad?

Here's some more on coloured:
"It is offensive because it implies that a person’s ‘colour’, or skin tone, is something that has been added to them. For example, a strawberry is just red, but red velvet cake has been coloured red (that’s why it’s more exciting than a Victoria sponge). A person who is not white has not coloured their skin. We shouldn’t use the term coloured in the same way we wouldn’t refer to a white person as bleached (gross)."

"The politically correct term at present is ‘People of Colour’ (abbreviated to PoC). Even Martin Luther King Jr. used the term ‘citizens of color’ in his famous ‘I Have A Dream’ speech, and he knew his stuff when it came to civil rights. However, when referring specifically to black people, just say black people."

 

[Iggle Piggle]

Apologise and move on. Abbott said far worse and a simple apology sufficed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-16434854/mp-diane-abbott-apologises-for-twitter-race-comment

 

[kjgood]

In physics, a color is visible light with a specific wavelength. Black and white are not colors because they do not have specific wavelengths. Instead, white light contains all wavelengths of visible light. Black, on the other hand, is the absence of visible light. So the discussion is?

 

[Pavilionaire]

'Coloured' used to be used as a derogatory term for black people, so it still has negative connotations. A person of colour refers to someone who's not white, and is not derogatory.

I can remember the 70s and 80s and the time when the use of the word 'coloured' represented progress. Before then it was "darkie" or, worse still, Paki or wog.

 

[Triggaaar]

I can remember the 70s and 80s and the time when the use of 'coloured' represented progress. Before then it was "darkie" or, worse still, Paki or wog.

Indeed. I think it's clear why it's offensive from the explanation I quoted above (repeated here):

"It is offensive because it implies that a person’s ‘colour’, or skin tone, is something that has been added to them. For example, a strawberry is just red, but red velvet cake has been coloured red (that’s why it’s more exciting than a Victoria sponge). A person who is not white has not coloured their skin. We shouldn’t use the term coloured in the same way we wouldn’t refer to a white person as bleached (gross)."

 

[Knocky's Nose]

"It is offensive because it implies that a person’s ‘colour’, or skin tone, is something that has been added to them. For example, a strawberry is just red, but red velvet cake has been coloured red (that’s why it’s more exciting than a Victoria sponge). A person who is not white has not coloured their skin. We shouldn’t use the term coloured in the same way we wouldn’t refer to a white person as bleached (gross)."

I just read that three times, then disappeared up my own arse in a puff of smoke. Does that mean I am now fully politically corrected?

Honestly...

 

[Greg Bobkin]

Mind you the Hove based, Simone O'Broin, Human Rights International and Criminal Lawyer, SJW BDS activist hurling racist abuse on a flight has got a rotten gob on her too. Welcome to the Neo Alt Left:

https://youtu.be/-gCObPm9_zc

She seems nice

 

[portlock seagull]

David Lammey...he's also clumsy with his language. But not a racist (or person who slips up) because these are always and only white, privileged, typically male, enjoy gammon etc

 

[portlock seagull]

She seems nice

OMG, I only listened to parts but my favourite bit was the end - she didn't even know where the plane she was on was going to! What a drunk potty mouth, couldn't really understand most of what she was saying other than 'F-ing' this. Shame the stewards didn't just cuff and then gag her too. Think they're allowed to do that in terms of restraint until arrival and hand over to police. It's incredible so many people behave this way even with drink factored in.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

We devalue the real fight against the evil of racism if we continue to vilify people who, with all good intent (and her point was that abuse of women and black women in particular is heinous), use the wrong word. It's not a word we use nowadays, it can be offensive to some, she's said sorry and maybe that will stop others saying it. That's the end of it for me.

Absolutely this. She was making a good and valid point actually in support of Diane Abbott and used a word she shouldn't have used. She is mortified and has apologised.


And I am certainly not a supporter of Amber Rudd. It's just daft.

 

[getreal1]

We devalue the real fight against the evil of racism if we continue to vilify people who, with all good intent (and her point was that abuse of women and black women in particular is heinous), use the wrong word. It's not a word we use nowadays, it can be offensive to some, she's said sorry and maybe that will stop others saying it. That's the end of it for me.

Hansen was vilified (pretty much only by the BBC) for similar a few years ago.

 

[Dr Bandler]

She seems nice

Gracious me! I normally try not to react to and judge things online, but she surely deserves to go to prison for such behaviour on a plane. It wouldn't be allowed at the Amex, where it is less dangerous.

Edit: she has been charged and found guilty and is awaiting sentencing.

 

[The Clamp]

I think Diane Abbott's reaction is revealing.

The political equivalent to a player getting a slight nudge and then rolling around on the pitch clutching their knees to their chest and screaming in agony.

 

[BLOCK F]

What a confusing world we live in, what with all this hoo-haa about coloured etc. and then having to learn all the terminology and abbreviations that go with the LGBT community, I reckon I shall have to sign up to an evening or online course to ensure I am up to speed with it all.

 

[dangull]

Is the term 'black' correct in the future though, as this describes people of many shades of colour, some closer to white than black?

 

[Hampden Park]

different shades of brown may be more appropriate?

 

[Wozza]

What a confusing world we live in, what with all this hoo-haa about coloured etc. and then having to learn all the terminology and abbreviations that go with the LGBT community, I reckon I shall have to sign up to an evening or online course to ensure I am up to speed with it all.

If you're in public office, that's definitely a good idea.