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[Brighton] All Brighton & Hove primary schools to switch to online learning from Monday ?



Lethargic

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2006
3,511
Horsham
All I know is that before Xmas we were getting emails on a regular basis from school and college of another positive test, the official figures are now stating that schools are about twice that of the normal infection rates so something has to be done.

If this thread has taught me one thing it is that I am glad I am not in charge, what ever is done someone (multiple) is gonna suffer and its one big shitstorm.
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
21,100
Wolsingham, County Durham
They need to reconsider exams. My son has a BTEC exam on Thursday, even though he will not be in school all week and has missed god knows how much teaching time last term due to having to isolate because other kids had relatives who tested positive. Whilst the school were doing online lessons it was certainly not all of the them. They have also been trying to provide after hours and lunchtime catching up and revision sessions but again not all were available online. This year's pupils have missed much more teaching time than last year's and yet exams are still going ahead. It is not right.
 


BNthree

Plastic JCL
Sep 14, 2016
11,458
WeHo
When Covid first hit last year I didn’t know of anyone personally that tested positive, there was no reports of any cases in schools ( where people I know work ) before they shut down last year, now I’m hearing about many cases in schools from people we know, not just hearsay or on the news.
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Exactly the same for me. Had friends that had relatives with covid but didn't know anyone in my immediate friends or family with it. This new variant I know several families that all tested positive locally plus various family members in London that are positive. Feels a lot closer to home this time round.
 




ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,350
(North) Portslade
As a teacher, on a purely selfish level I'd prefer to open. This is because I like my normal life and preferred last term to last year's lockdown infinitely. I would say remote teaching is 2-3 times as much work and stress as when the kids are in front of you, for about 50% (at best) of the impact. I also have my own kids who we now need to plan around - and I will still need to be in school for key worker kids etc.

However, I also lost my grandmother to Covid on Christmas Day. She almost certainly caught it through my younger cousin bringing it home from college. So many teachers and students are living with vulnerable people.

Nothing but respect for all key workers, but I do think that for *most* there's more social distancing and protection than for teachers. Bear in mind that many parents of the kids we teach are key workers, so their kids are in effect bringing all of their exposure into one room. In my school, teachers can wear masks, but in the classroom kids don't. My understanding is that the types of masks Johnny Public is wearing are to protect others not themselves.

The 6am alarm will be on tomorrow and I'll be physically going to work though, just for those that demand I "go to work".

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Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
Hats off to all the teachers for the work they have done throughout COVID in meeting the demands placed upon them. Now it is right for them and us all that we return to online teaching for the vast majority of pupils while we are in the teeth of infection rates and hospitalizations that are higher than the first wave.


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Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
As a teacher, on a purely selfish level I'd prefer to open. This is because I like my normal life and preferred last term to last year's lockdown infinitely. I would say remote teaching is 2-3 times as much work and stress as when the kids are in front of you, for about 50% (at best) of the impact. I also have my own kids who we now need to plan around - and I will still need to be in school for key worker kids etc.

However, I also lost my grandmother to Covid on Christmas Day. She almost certainly caught it through my younger cousin bringing it home from college. So many teachers and students are living with vulnerable people.

Nothing but respect for all key workers, but I do think that for *most* there's more social distancing and protection than for teachers. Bear in mind that many parents of the kids we teach are key workers, so their kids are in effect bringing all of their exposure into one room. In my school, teachers can wear masks, but in the classroom kids don't. My understanding is that the types of masks Johnny Public is wearing are to protect others not themselves.

The 6am alarm will be on tomorrow and I'll be physically going to work though, just for those that demand I "go to work".

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No-one should go to work with these kinds of worries. I think most people will understand if teachers follow union advice that their workplaces are unsafe. I certainly don’t expect you to put your life at risk.
 


Wardy's twin

Well-known member
Oct 21, 2014
8,874
Not allowed? Really? Plenty of mask wearing teachers at my kids school.

Maybe it's a policy set at school level or maybe the teachers just realise that they can't communicate with youngsters (infants) so easily. I will check with the school's I know and report bck.
 




Hazwaz

Active member
Jul 23, 2012
215
Hove
I’m a contractor and visit many schools a week (i always wear a mask).Most teachers do not wear masks but the kids mainly stay in one place in their bubbles until lunchtime,Also most teachers use the same staff room and the same utensils this maybe the problem.
 


ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,350
(North) Portslade
I’m a contractor and visit many schools a week (i always wear a mask).Most teachers do not wear masks but the kids mainly stay in one place in their bubbles until lunchtime,Also most teachers use the same staff room and the same utensils this maybe the problem.

Primary or Secondary? How many schools is this based on? I find this a very sweeping statement.
 






ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,350
(North) Portslade
About 8 to 10 schools a week ,every week ,mainly brighton and hove but all of Sussex.And yes Primary and Secondary.Private and Public

Ok. I guess the school I work in is the only one I can really comment on with any authority but I can safely say staff are taking social distancing, masks and sharing equipment very seriously.
 


Hazwaz

Active member
Jul 23, 2012
215
Hove
Ok. I guess the school I work in is the only one I can really comment on with any authority but I can safely say staff are taking social distancing, masks and sharing equipment very seriously.
I absolutely agree some schools are meticulous with the rules but some think the whole school is a bubble,which was fine but this variant is so transmissible unless there is good ventilation a mask won’t be enough.
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,896
Guiseley
Find it odd that nurseries are not mentioned in all this. My five year old not being at school would be tricky but I can at least stick her in front of the telly for a couple of mornings a week whilst I work. If my 1 year old isn't at nursery clearly she will need looking after.

How does the key worker thing work? Are supermarket workers included? Do both parents have to be key workers?
 




ATFC Seagull

Aberystwyth Town FC
Jul 27, 2004
5,350
(North) Portslade
I absolutely agree some schools are meticulous with the rules but some think the whole school is a bubble,which was fine but this variant is so transmissible unless there is good ventilation a mask won’t be enough.

I think we're probably on the same page here. I just felt like there was a bit of finger-pointing at staff in your first comment. Probably me reading too much into it!
 


Hazwaz

Active member
Jul 23, 2012
215
Hove
I think we're probably on the same page here. I just felt like there was a bit of finger-pointing at staff in your first comment. Probably me reading too much into it!

Sorry,no finger pointing.Difficult situation we all find ourselves.And schools nurseries are all doing there best with the information they are given.It is interesting though that in the council buildings that are meant for hundreds of staff have only a hand full at their desks (only about 5 people on each floor)but they are asking hundreds of teachers and pupils to populate similar size buildings
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The way I read TBs comment was - missing a few weeks isn’t important.... saving lives is, the rest of TBs post makes very good sense.

I’m also worried at the moment as 4 close family members have just had Covid including my father in law being in hospital over Christmas. Also one family member being a teacher.
When Covid first hit last year I didn’t know of anyone personally that tested positive, there was no reports of any cases in schools ( where people I know work ) before they shut down last year, now I’m hearing about many cases in schools from people we know, not just hearsay or on the news.

Definitely don’t want to fall out as I enjoy a laugh with you.

Thank you. You understood the gist of my post.
My comment arose from experience of when I was eight, I had glandular fever. I missed two whole terms in a school year, but still passed my 11+ exam two years later, and that was without any online teaching.
I realise not every child can and will work at home, but a few weeks away from school to get a grip on this virus won’t make a huge difference to those who want to learn.
My grandson had to miss out on his GCSEs last summer, but apart from one grade (B) he got good marks from the assessment.
 


BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
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Jul 14, 2013
22,693
Newhaven
Thank you. You understood the gist of my post.
My comment arose from experience of when I was eight, I had glandular fever. I missed two whole terms in a school year, but still passed my 11+ exam two years later, and that was without any online teaching.
I realise not every child can and will work at home, but a few weeks away from school to get a grip on this virus won’t make a huge difference to those who want to learn.
My grandson had to miss out on his GCSEs last summer, but apart from one grade (B) he got good marks from the assessment.

My youngest lad also missed out on his exams, he had studied hard and wasn’t worried about taking exams like some do, he did get very good predicted grades though.
 




Surf's Up

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2011
10,441
Here
Government should have made this decision days ago. Having lockdown, people isolating - and at the same time having all the kids going to school/college/uni always was a recipe for disaster.

the on nail head.
 




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