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[Albion] Albion Legends a matter of debate?



durrington gull

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Aug 29, 2004
2,330
Worthing
There's a young lad on FB currently compiling a list of Albion Legends.

Yesterday he first came out with the question, should Kupiers, Stockdale or Ryan be classed as legends?

He then asked for defender suggestions, I said Gall and he sent me a PM back, whose Gall?

It really is all subjective, IMHO surely a legends roster has to go right back to 1901?

Another talking point, to my mind Vicente, is not an Albion legend, more an all too brief cameo.

Good point Harty, - Vicente not a legend imo - top player when he occasionally played - Mark Gall top player back in the day but not sure a legend>, all subjective i suppose - Johnny Crumplin a legend though!!
 




Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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Jul 7, 2003
13,528
tokyo
To answer the OP, yes it's a matter of debate. People can only really talk of the players that they've seen. Plus with no clear criteria for what constitutes a legend then there's always going to be plenty of room for discussion.

FWIW, I think a legend is someone who is much loved and has achieved notable success with the club. Zamora and Dunk clearly fit that definition(from my 'era'). Murray with his 100+ goals and taking us from league one to the prem and then keeping us there really should be included....but doe his spell at Palace mean he doesn't get the full recognition/love that he deserves?

After that there are a number of players that could fit a level below - maybe a heroes level? Not sure there are many more legends though.

There are no doubt many great players from before my time(anything pre-88) but I don't know how many fit the description. Ward, definitely, Foster probably? Before them, Tommy Cook is really the only name that jumps out at me. I'd need the older fans rto put forward the names of long gone players.
 




SeagullinExile

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Sep 10, 2010
6,193
London
Agree with the sentiment but Bruno earns it every much of those you’ve mentioned, arguably Murray too.

As scorer of our first ever top flight goal doesn’t Teddy Maybank warrant a mention? 😃

Teddy with his magnificent golden hair. My favourite player growing up.
 


Silverhatch

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Feb 23, 2009
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Preston Park
Before my time: Charlie Webb, Tommy Cook, Tug Wilson, Pom Pom Whiting
Just before my time: Norman Gall & Bobby Smith (just for the fact of who he was and the stories of how Brighton signed him)
Mullers years: Nobby, Wardy, Sully and Lawrenson (still the best player comparatively and through the mists of time I've ever seen)
Modern era: Zamora & Murray & Dunk
Characters/notability/notoriety: Robbie Reinelt (that goal); Johnny Crumplin (football genius); Charlie Oatway (surname); Gary Hart (tracksuits); Vicente (a mxture of Bobby Smith and Mark Lawrenson)
PL generation (legend status still to be earned although Dunky and Muzza make it for longevity/impact)
 




Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,830
Uffern
Surely the number one must be Charlie Webb? Forty years at the club, scorer of the goal that won us our only major trophy.

In my lifetime I'd add Sully, Lawrenson, Mayo and OGH to the names already mentioned
 


lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
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Jun 11, 2011
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Worthing
Good point Harty, - Vicente not a legend imo - top player when he occasionally played - Mark Gall top player back in the day but not sure a legend>, all subjective i suppose - Johnny Crumplin a legend though!!


Johnny Crumplin is more a cult hero, not a legend.

Very few legends, the bar should be set very high or it starts to lose its meaning.
 


big nuts

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Jan 15, 2011
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Hove
Only four from my 35 years supporting the Albion

Bobby Zamora
Lewis Dunk
Glenn Murray
Bruno

I’ve seen Case & Foster player but their legends status was earned in their first spell, not in the mid nineties as good as they still were.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,952
Surrey
Good point Harty, - Vicente not a legend imo - top player when he occasionally played - Mark Gall top player back in the day but not sure a legend>, all subjective i suppose - Johnny Crumplin a legend though!!

He was referring to Norman Gall, which is why he mentioned defenders. NG played 400 games for the club.

As you say, Mark Gall played about 4, and looked as if he could dig us out of trouble single-handedly until his career ending injury.
 


Grassman

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Jun 12, 2008
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Tun Wells
Good point Harty, - Vicente not a legend imo - top player when he occasionally played - Mark Gall top player back in the day but not sure a legend>, all subjective i suppose - Johnny Crumplin a legend though!!

I assume he meant Norman, rather than Mark.

*sorry, was beaten to it. I take far too long to type with the one good finger!
 


Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
He was referring to Norman Gall, which is why he mentioned defenders. NG played 400 games for the club.

As you say, Mark Gall played about 4, and looked as if he could dig us out of trouble single-handedly until his career ending injury.

Mark Gall was so fast but sadly his ball skills didn’t match his pace. When he did get it right he was amazing.
 














fisons

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Feb 21, 2005
666
Before my time: Charlie Webb, Tommy Cook, Tug Wilson, Pom Pom Whiting
Just before my time: Norman Gall & Bobby Smith (just for the fact of who he was and the stories of how Brighton signed him)
Mullers years: Nobby, Wardy, Sully and Lawrenson (still the best player comparatively and through the mists of time I've ever seen)
Modern era: Zamora & Murray & Dunk
Characters/notability/notoriety: Robbie Reinelt (that goal); Johnny Crumplin (football genius); Charlie Oatway (surname); Gary Hart (tracksuits); Vicente (a mxture of Bobby Smith and Mark Lawrenson)
PL generation (legend status still to be earned although Dunky and Muzza make it for longevity/impact)

Character stuff aside this is spot on for my money. Sully is the most marginal on the list but I can buy it - Solly must be getting close too. If I was adding one more it would probably be Mickey Robinson who probably didn't quite do enough for elevation to legendary status. Certainly Lawrenson is the best player to wear the blue and white stripes ( quite comfortably in fact).
 




Shuggie

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Sep 19, 2003
685
East Sussex coast
Show a bit of respect ... Sir Norman Gall to the likes of you and me
 




Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
12,136
Before my time: Charlie Webb, Tommy Cook, Tug Wilson, Pom Pom Whiting
Just before my time: Norman Gall & Bobby Smith (just for the fact of who he was and the stories of how Brighton signed him)
Mullers years: Nobby, Wardy, Sully and Lawrenson (still the best player comparatively and through the mists of time I've ever seen)
Modern era: Zamora & Murray & Dunk
Characters/notability/notoriety: Robbie Reinelt (that goal); Johnny Crumplin (football genius); Charlie Oatway (surname); Gary Hart (tracksuits); Vicente (a mxture of Bobby Smith and Mark Lawrenson)
PL generation (legend status still to be earned although Dunky and Muzza make it for longevity/impact)

No Bruno?
 




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