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"He pushed me on the chiiiiiinnn"
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Adam El Abd - Pathetic
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"He pushed me on the chiiiiiinnn"
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
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Brett - SO DID ELDING! I'd rather El Abd did that if it helped get him sent off honestly. Karma mate.
Sheebo
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El-Abd ended up on the deck in his own goalmouth after being shoved by Mellor in an off-the-ball incident.
Mellor escaped with a booking but El-Abd said: "He pushed me on the chin. It was both hands. If you raise your hands, you should be off. The referee must have seen it because he booked him. It’s either nothing or a red card."
Hmmm. Well AEA certainly made sure the ref saw it I suppose. He's massively exagerrated the incident so as to draw attention to it, in the hope of getting the guy sent off. I suppose its understandable - but is it really acceptable ?
Personally I can't stand seeing this kind of thing. It makes me cringe. I mean look at the arms, he's doing a full-on PLATOON jobbie there.
And I suppose last wk u said Greer was a disgrace and deserved to se sent off and didn't mention Elding's part in it all. It's double standards from some on here IMO!
Mendoza
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Elding fell over yes, theatrical yes, but Greer hit him harder, I think with his elbow too. Elding didnt go down holding a random part of his body that didnt get touched (as far as I can remember, correct me if Im wrong)
I am also quite shocked to see how few fans are embarrassed/pissed off at patheticness like
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being associated with our club.
If it is now an accepatable "part of the game these days" then that saddens me somewhat...
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I didn't actually see the Greer incident, but it strikes me that what he did was pretty bone-headed if he pushed or elbowed the bloke off the ball, just as stupid as what Mellor did. Predictably it sounds like Elding milked it for all it was worth for the chance of getting a member of the opposition sent off, just as El Abd did.
Its a shitty aspect of the game, it doesn't do credit to EITHER of the players involved, and I simply cannot bring myself to agree with anyone who advocates our players throwing themselves to the floor just because "everyone else does it".
Can you imagine what Brian Clough would've done if one of his players acted like this ?
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supaseagull
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I can't believe the slating El-Abd has got from this. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves and should wake up to the fact that this type of thing goes on all the time in football.
Just because El-Abd is not one of the "fans favourites" you say he's a disgrace? Well I'm sorry but some of you are utter hypocrites.
Do we now have to expect a thread saying how much you think a Brighton player is a disgrace everytime he goes down softly in the penalty area and gets a penalty like Zamora & Knight did at times have ? What about two footed tackle that could end a players career like the few committed by the likes of Carpenter when he was here.
None of us like what happens, but to publicly slate one of your own players for play-acting, when other teams players do it all the time is ridiculous.
Just because El-Abd is not one of the "fans favourites" you say he's a disgrace? Well I'm sorry but some of you are utter hypocrites.
Do we now have to expect a thread saying how much you think a Brighton player is a disgrace everytime he goes down softly in the penalty area and gets a penalty like Zamora & Knight did at times have ? What about two footed tackle that could end a players career like the few committed by the likes of Carpenter when he was here.
None of us like what happens, but to publicly slate one of your own players for play-acting, when other teams players do it all the time is ridiculous.
Quite clearly Mellors fingers flicked the underside of Adam El-abds chin, he took a facial blow and had every right to go down. There were probably even a few scratches.
Obviously it wasn't that bad... but as many people have said it happens all the time. What is a bit annoying is the thread has been aimed at a single player who's an easy target. Were there threads like this when Forster or Murray took a dive, theres no thread slating Painter for acting on the floor and when he only saw a yellow, jumping up and screaming at the ref for a red.
A few people around me were saying Mellor studded El-abd in the build up - he probably wanted to take a bit of revenge, without getting into trouble himself anyway.
Obviously it wasn't that bad... but as many people have said it happens all the time. What is a bit annoying is the thread has been aimed at a single player who's an easy target. Were there threads like this when Forster or Murray took a dive, theres no thread slating Painter for acting on the floor and when he only saw a yellow, jumping up and screaming at the ref for a red.
A few people around me were saying Mellor studded El-abd in the build up - he probably wanted to take a bit of revenge, without getting into trouble himself anyway.
Behind Enemy Lines
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Clough would have dropped or fined anyone who did that. Poyet should tell the players to cut out the over-acting and diving. It is pathetic to see grown men act in this way and wrong to try and get people sent off in this way. It's not how the games should be played. Other teams may try and con the refs but I don't want ours to. Almost as bad is then to go and bleet about it to the press. Shame on you Adam.
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Pain thresholds on the football pitch are remarkable things arn't they.
Cross the white line and the slightest touch that you'd barely notice in "normal life" suddenly seems to cause instant untold agony on the field of play. At this time of the season, I live in constant fear of a player colliding with a butterfly one afternoon and (one rolling faceclutch later) losing the sight in one eye.
Cross the white line and the slightest touch that you'd barely notice in "normal life" suddenly seems to cause instant untold agony on the field of play. At this time of the season, I live in constant fear of a player colliding with a butterfly one afternoon and (one rolling faceclutch later) losing the sight in one eye.
Mendoza
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I would have started a thread had it been any one of our players, whether we won, lost or drew.
I think it's pathetic and wanted to make a point of it
Painter did some play acting after that two footed challenge too. Murray dived too easily in the box trying to win a penalty, but El Abd was the worst piece of acting since Mariah Carey in Glitter
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Caveman
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Elding fell over yes, theatrical yes, but Greer hit him harder, I think with his elbow too. Elding didnt go down holding a random part of his body that didnt get touched (as far as I can remember, correct me if Im wrong)
I am also quite shocked to see how few fans are embarrassed/pissed off at patheticness like
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being associated with our club.
If it is now an accepatable "part of the game these days" then that saddens me somewhat...
Elding ran straight off the bench and went straight for Greer and Elding was holding his face and miking it big time? May be I was at a different game? How come you didn't see this.
So when opposing players do it and cost us points you expect us to accept it, but when our players do it, you want us to be all embarrassed?
Get real!
Mendoza
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Was Elding holding where he got hit? I thought he did. And he got hit with an elbow, not a little push to the chest. I am not saying he didnt milk it because it was clear he did. it too was also embarrassing.
I dont expect our fans to accept it if it goes against us, because it is cheating. That is exactly what El Abd did, he cheated, and that I think is a bit pathetic, especially looking at the size of him, and how he plays his game putting his body on the line what ever the situation. He will tackle massive strikers, he will block shots with his head, throw himself of shots and make last ditch tackles, so may be so pathetic when he gets a little push in the chest
Behind Enemy Lines
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Just because there is a perceived wisdom by some in the football "community" this is now part of the modern game and therefore should be tolerated is nonsense. I don't care who does it, Albion or non Albion. Players who dive, overact to the slightest of touches as El Abd did or all that shirt tugging/holding on thing in the penalty area before set pieces, all of that is little more than cheating and should be challenged as such. If possible it should be stamped out, certainly punished. Referees must get tough with this stuff and send player offs for diving or cheating. If that happened then much of this "play acting" or worse might stop. In the meantime, managers should tell their players to cut it out. No, this "development” is a really crap part of the game and we as fans should say so.
Sheebo
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I agree I do hate players doing it but after last wk I just think we'll miss out on decisions if we don't do it - maybe El Abds was particularly bad tho.
NS Herald
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Couldn't have put it better myself. Put the boot on the other foot and El Abd pushes Mellor in the same way and get's sent off. How many people on here honestly would think it was the right decision and would accept that Mellor falling over for an Oscar was acceptable.
It's not whoever does it and it's ruining the game. Adam should be ashamed as all he's doing is giving an excuse to other teams to do the same against us and we will be the losers.
murraymints4brighton
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I am at a bit of a loss as to why Adam El-Abd is receiving this abuse. Since when has he EVER done anything like this before? It seems he is being used as a bit as a scapegoat on here for the few who believe he isn't up to it, when quite clearly previous starts and performances completely rubbish those claims which are the complete underlying factor to the thread. Murray, who before you all start I am a huge admirer of, ruined at least two games for us last season and didn't get this sort of abuse.
We were at Hillsborough and the ref was a bottle job so for the Albion to win the game was going to be a tough task and besides, that tackle on Painter was a sending off that he never gave, so this would have evened it up.
We were at Hillsborough and the ref was a bottle job so for the Albion to win the game was going to be a tough task and besides, that tackle on Painter was a sending off that he never gave, so this would have evened it up.
NS Herald
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If Painter or Murray or Kish or anyone of them had done the same and been caught blantantly on camera trying to earn an Oscar then they would have had much the same treatment. For me it's such a stupid and childish thing to do that any BHA player doing the same would get the same criticism. They are supposed to be grown men and not kids and are supposed to be role models.
Yes zillions of other players do it but 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Mendoza
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Just going this thread I don't think El Abd has been slated for his performance on the pitch. I think a lot of praise has been sent his way and quite rightly so
El Abd has dived like a little girl on a couple of occasions, I can't remember the game at the moment but I will find out
I didn't start the thread to have at go at El Abds performance as a defender as I think he's done well
I was making a point that I thought El Abd looked like a bit of dick with his theatrics. The majority seemed to disagree and some agreed
There is a difference between playing well and acting like a knob
Hotchilidog
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After reading this thread I have finally just watched the incident, and I would have to agree that, yes, Adam clutching his face was pretty embarrassing as he was clearly not struck in the face.
However, I think to say he was cheating is actually wrong as Mellor clearly without any need raised his hand and made enough contact to push him over. To be honest my own view is that a yellow is sufficient punishment for such an offence, however, it is now commonly accepted that no player should raise their hands to another and that is normally deemed a red card. By the normal standards Mellor should have gone, as did Sparrow for a similar offence in the Northampton game.
However, I think to say he was cheating is actually wrong as Mellor clearly without any need raised his hand and made enough contact to push him over. To be honest my own view is that a yellow is sufficient punishment for such an offence, however, it is now commonly accepted that no player should raise their hands to another and that is normally deemed a red card. By the normal standards Mellor should have gone, as did Sparrow for a similar offence in the Northampton game.