Abusing coloured players

[Ringmer Seagull]

Someone in H block has developed an annoying habit of shouting "freak" at opposing coloured players - with no obvious reason for doing so. A classic example was last night - one of the (coloured) Southampton players went across to take a throw and was duly branded a freak. He dropped the ball to allowed another (coloured) teammate to take it and he was met with " Another one".

Whoever you are leave it out. Its not funny.

 

[The Goon]

Someone in H block has developed an annoying habit of shouting "freak" at opposing coloured players - with no obvious reason for doing so. A classic example was last night - one of the (coloured) Southampton players went across to take a throw and was duly branded a freak. He dropped the ball to allowed another (coloured) teammate to take it and he was met with " Another one".

Whoever you are leave it out. Its not funny.

If you are talking about the person I think you are then this person says that to pretty much all opposing players and not just coloured players as you put it! I don't see how the word freak can be determined racial?

 

[Ringmer Seagull]

If you are talking about the person I think you are then this person says that to pretty much all opposing players and not just coloured players as you put it! I don't see how the word freak can be determined racial?

It doesnt appear that way to me. I didnt use the expression racial in my post but if coloured players are singled out then it could be.

 

[The Goon]

It doesnt appear that way to me. I didnt use the expression racial in my post but if coloured players are singled out then it could be.

Well it is quit possible that we are thinking of a different person, although I'm not sure too many people shout out freak lol!

 

[Del Boy]

 

[brunswick]

Someone in H block has developed an annoying habit of shouting "freak" at opposing coloured players - with no obvious reason for doing so. A classic example was last night - one of the (coloured) Southampton players went across to take a throw and was duly branded a freak. He dropped the ball to allowed another (coloured) teammate to take it and he was met with " Another one".

Whoever you are leave it out. Its not funny.

the word "coloured" is taken badly by black people. they are black, not coloured .

black is as coloured as white - learn your language.

 

[cunning fergus]

the word "coloured" is taken badly by black people. they are black, not coloured .

black is as coloured as white - learn your language.

You being black of course can obviously speak authoritively on behalf of dem dere black folks?

I would not seek to be so bold, however on an anecdotal basis a recent office discussion on this particular issue between honkeys and darkies proved inconclusive, as only the honkeys were offended by the word coloured.

Dem blacks dont know dere own mind innit.

 

[Simon Morgan]

Hostility to the word "coloured" winds me up. I know its maybe not entirely appropriate, but it doesn't automatically mean you are condescending and approve of slavery does it?

 

[little al]

Darkie is worse.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

Hostility to the word "coloured" winds me up. I know its maybe not entirely appropriate, but it doesn't automatically mean you are condescending and approve of slavery does it?

To me it has connotations of apartheid, rather than slavery. A mixed race colleague of mine told me he absolutely hated it when people called him coloured, and I can see why.

I don't like it. I think you'll find black people in general are perfectly happy to use the word black, or mixed race, or whatever: it's no different than you or I describing ourselves as white.

"Coloured" is just...I don't know but it all sounds a bit Alf Garnett to me, it doesn't feel right in 2010.

 

[Simon Morgan]

To me it has connotations of apartheid, rather than slavery. A mixed race colleague of mine told me he absolutely hated it when people called him coloured, and I can see why.

I don't like it. I think you'll find black people in general are perfectly happy to use the word black, or mixed race, or whatever: it's no different than you or I describing ourselves as white.

"Coloured" is just...I don't know but it all sounds a bit Alf Garnett to me, it doesn't feel right in 2010.

I agree, as I said it is a bit inappropriate, but calling someone a racist on the basis that they use the word "coloured" is jumping the gun a bit for me. The whole issue is constantly blown out of all proportion by everyone, makes me sick.

 

[The Spanish]

the issue of language and race is constantly changing, we will be thinking dual heritage etc sounds ridiculous in 20 years time.

the only thing that is really ridiculous, apart from mindless racism, is people not accepting the fact that a massive change in the face of our culture in an eyeblink of history is sometimes not dealt with perfectly, and people will make mistakes. We have a very very long way to go on all this, no one has it sussed and people who claim to are generally idiots.

 

[murraymints4brighton]

He is not trying to be racist. The man in question shouts it at every game and as much as it drives me nuts, it isn't racist. Anyway Jahidi was a bit of a FREAK anyway.

 

[Hungry Joe]

the issue of language and race is constantly changing, we will be thinking dual heritage etc sounds ridiculous in 20 years time.

the only thing that is really ridiculous, apart from mindless racism, is people not accepting the fact that a massive change in the face of our culture in an eyeblink of history is sometimes not dealt with perfectly, and people will make mistakes. We have a very very long way to go on all this, no one has it sussed and people who claim to are generally idiots.

Spot on.

Perhaps this Freak chap has tourettes. I heard a story, maybe true maybe not, of a lad with tourettes who shouted '******!' every time he saw a black person. Apparently he wasn't racist in his views. He was sent to a speach therapist to try to change his touretteic(?) outburst into something less offensive and now he shouts 'Nigel!' at every black person he sees. Whether true or not I think you'll agree it's a great story.

 

[LA1972]

I dont think the "black or coloured" players lost much sleep about being called a freak by a football fan. I suggest we dont worry about it to much and perhaps get a life.

 

[cunning fergus]

To me it has connotations of apartheid, rather than slavery. A mixed race colleague of mine told me he absolutely hated it when people called him coloured, and I can see why.

I don't like it. I think you'll find black people in general are perfectly happy to use the word black, or mixed race, or whatever: it's no different than you or I describing ourselves as white.

"Coloured" is just...I don't know but it all sounds a bit Alf Garnett to me, it doesn't feel right in 2010.

Interesting that you should say that its an Apartheid throeback because I understand the term 'coloured' in post apartheid South Africa is an completely acceptable term for a the broad ethnic grouping consisting of those who are neither of European white or African black ancestry.

Like it or not, as with Brian Habana (I think) if your colleague was living in South Africa today he would be defined as coloured by the current ANC Government because he is neither white or black.

If I am right given how strongly people feel about this matter maybe they should get round South Africa House again an teach Nelson Mandela and his lot some modern day manners. Spitting Image were right after all.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

the issue of language and race is constantly changing, we will be thinking dual heritage etc sounds ridiculous in 20 years time.

the only thing that is really ridiculous, apart from mindless racism, is people not accepting the fact that a massive change in the face of our culture in an eyeblink of history is sometimes not dealt with perfectly, and people will make mistakes. We have a very very long way to go on all this, no one has it sussed and people who claim to are generally idiots.

I think this is an excellent post.

 

[TrickyOne]

Someone in H block has developed an annoying habit of shouting "freak" at opposing coloured players - with no obvious reason for doing so. A classic example was last night - one of the (coloured) Southampton players went across to take a throw and was duly branded a freak. He dropped the ball to allowed another (coloured) teammate to take it and he was met with " Another one".

Whoever you are leave it out. Its not funny.

What coulour was they?

 

[Father Jack]

just out of curiosity could he have been shouting it, in remark to Antonios long throw in, i remember Andy Legg being taunted with a similar shout when he visited a few years back. However if it is used in any other context then it is nothing short of racism and should not be tolerated.

 

[binky]

Wow. Earnest and worthy discussion on the semantics of skin colour...
You are all part of the problem guys.
Figuring out the least offensive way to categorise people by skin colour is still categorising people by skin colour.

There is just... people.